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Old 06-22-2002, 11:37 AM   #91
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Right, and bring an extra $4K to pay for the BMW emblem. go to the bmwrt.com site and see all the problems this "german engineering" bike has and read the snob appeal as the Beemer guys trash other models they've never thrown a leg over. I have a riding Bud that has a R1100RT. It's a very nice machine, comfortable and reasonably quick (he could smoke my GL15). IMHO, the extra $$$ over the FJR or even the ST1300 is not worth it, but then I am a cheap SOB that wants to have a few more grand in the bank when I retire in another couple years!

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Old 06-22-2002, 01:40 PM   #92
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Windshield? Adjustable bars? Heat deflectors?

Are we talking about bikes or a car?

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Old 06-22-2002, 02:18 PM   #93
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Have you had the chance to ride the FJR or ST1300? I'm looking forward to riding both of them to see how they compare to my R1150RT. It seems as though this genre of bike is garnering more interest of late. BTW, I rented a HD Sportster 883 for my wife to ride today. I rode it for a bit and quite honestly was astonished at its crude handling and apallingly bad ergonomics. I really don't get it, but nonetheless commend HD for it's excellent rental program. After returning it, I kicked some tires at the dealership and was bewildered at the thousands of dollars over MSRP the bikes are selling for. All I could conclude was that HD stock is probably an excellent long-term investment as the motorcycle market continues to grow. I am clearly out of step with what the public wants or expects in a motorcycle. I'm going to rent a Fatboy and ride that just to see if I can get tuned into HD machines and to make sure I never get too jaded.
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Old 06-22-2002, 03:36 PM   #94
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in the 11 months since I have owned my R1100S, I have logged 13500 miles on it and could not tell you how many times the ABS has saved my butt. Especially riding in nasty rain. (You know it's bad when cars are pulling off the side of the road) I am a huge fan of ABS and quite frankly would not mind linked brakes either. Then again, I RIDE my bike. I would like to see a squid on a race replica/coffin log 13,500 in less than a year.
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Old 06-22-2002, 04:44 PM   #95
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The key with HD, IMHO, is to judge it as a brand-new vintage motorcycle. Go slow, enjoy the scenery. My Road King feels as fast at 50 as my ST4 does at 75+.



If you get a fuel-injected bike, though, one thing you'll find is that HD has injection nailed, unlike BMW.
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Old 06-22-2002, 04:52 PM   #96
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Like I said, the term "sport-tourer" is wide open. A bike in this category can be anything you can throw luggage on. How sporty it is depends on your prowess and pain quotient. Personally, I'd take a '98-'01 VFR800 or a straight-up SV650, or maybe my new Speed Triple with the Ventura Bike-Pack system, and grin like an idiot 'cross this great ol' USA (better throw in one helluva radar dectector--jail sucks). Enjoy the ride. Cheers, ILAKSMU (Illustrious Leader and All-Knowing Soothsayer of the Motorcycle Universe), aka Jack



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Old 06-22-2002, 04:57 PM   #97
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Ya gotta feel sorry for a guy as young as Van that isn't old enough to get Viagra from his doc, but can't get it up anymore and settles for a 700 pound couch with remote control handlebars, an oxygen tank, and training wheels for excitement! RIP. ILAKSMU (Illustrious Leader and All-Knowing Soothsayer of the Motorcycle Universe), aka Jack
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Old 06-22-2002, 07:47 PM   #98
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It's amazing how you know the next batch of FJRs won't come with bags, while no one else knows this, and Yamaha has not said anything about it either. Do you work for Honda or something?
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Old 06-22-2002, 09:31 PM   #99
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does a bandit 1200s count as a sport bike? I've got 16k. miles on mine in 16 months, the beef I have with link brakes / ABS and whatnot is that I've spent alot of years perfecting and practicing my braking technique, and I'm pretty reluctant to give up that aspect of control, also these systems add complexity to what I'd prefer to keep as a fairly simple a machine as possible, just my opinion, though as much rain and damp we get here in tacoma, I should probable rethink my position.
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Old 06-22-2002, 11:32 PM   #100
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The appeal is the baby boomers last hurah. i.e. They want to be part of the Gray Pony Tailed Brotherhood. My fellow Gen Xers aren't going to fall for the all show no go. I plan to sell my H-D stock in a couple of years. We aren't into buying new antiques. We like technology, quality, and no execuses. Price/performance is the key to of the future of motorcycling.
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