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Abe_Froman · 03-26-2002, 05:02 AM

By your logic, we ought to also include the 1100XX, the ZX-12, and the Huyabusa. I think the idea is to compare similarly-purposed bikes. If you think the ZX-9 will beat the 954, the R1, or the GSXR at the track with some good riders at the helm, you're dreaming.

moldeater · 03-26-2002, 05:05 AM

Wow, with the addition of your new staffer, you now have the personnel to tell us that you won't be updating the site for a week? Nice use of the subscription dollars. Makes me want to sign up right now.

Abe_Froman · 03-26-2002, 05:06 AM

Or you could just buy a bone-stock, used '98 Huyabusa that would destroy your Muzzy ZX-9 in a drag race. Seems all that some people want to do is twist a grip. There's more to life than that.

minime · 03-26-2002, 05:06 AM

We've already got some scales accurate to within a couple of pounds (three) of what Motorcyclist magazine's scales are showing.

Bada Bing?

jmeyn · 03-26-2002, 05:07 AM

Come on respondents, they have opinions so shouldn't they tell us what they are and why they have them? The opinions may well change in the course of the the test.

I think I'll like the split format with incremental reporting; a good experiment anyway. The print mags can't do this.

Let's be patient...

ValkBandit · 03-26-2002, 05:23 AM

I can understand leaving out the Kwacker, which is yet another transverse-four, vacuum-sealed, monkey-humping-a-football, squid bike. But why on Earth would you omit the Honda Valkyrie, which obliterates all the others in the cool derby and is MUCH better for picking up chicks.

Sometimes your logic escapes me ...

98Viffer · 03-26-2002, 06:00 AM

Thanks a lot... now I have to clean up this coffee that I just spewed all over my keyboard!! BWWWAAAHAHAAAHAA!! Nice one, Panther...

BBD_Racing · 03-26-2002, 07:07 AM

Not until you print the measurements. Ready to go, tank empty preferable. Then you get the bada-bing.

BBD_Racing · 03-26-2002, 07:08 AM

Is that hot female intern still around? I'd bare with her........

longride · 03-26-2002, 07:12 AM

rsalas has a valid point up top in his post, but he is assuming 2 things. One, is that the rider can actually turn a wrench to make the upgrades cheaply, and two that said rider can actually use the performance available. Knowledgable and skilled riders and wrenches are like hens teeth these days. I bet one out of 50 guys that post here even know where the tool kit on their bike is, much less how to use it. It is so much easier to run down to the local bike shop and plunk down your dollars on this years wonderbike rather than upgrade your riding skills or actually learn how to maintain your own motorcycle. Race replica motorcycles surpassed the average riders' skill to pilot them about 15 years ago. Which one wins this year matters not as next year it will be 3 lbs lighter and 2 mph faster. At that time squidly must run, not walk, to the dealer and get the "new and improved" model, even though he couldn't ride the last one very well. The funny part is all the screaming and crying about which bike "won" and why. About 99% of you will never see the upper performance limits of these bikes anyway, but knowing your buddy, who can't ride very well either, has this years "winner" is just too much to bear at the bar scene. I believe MO said as much last year when they named the R1 the winner.

03-26-2002, 05:02 AM	#21
Abe_Froman Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 878	Re: 2002 Openclass Shootout, Part I By your logic, we ought to also include the 1100XX, the ZX-12, and the Huyabusa. I think the idea is to compare similarly-purposed bikes. If you think the ZX-9 will beat the 954, the R1, or the GSXR at the track with some good riders at the helm, you're dreaming.

03-26-2002, 05:05 AM	#22
moldeater Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 4	Re: 2002 Openclass Shootout, Part I Wow, with the addition of your new staffer, you now have the personnel to tell us that you won't be updating the site for a week? Nice use of the subscription dollars. Makes me want to sign up right now.

03-26-2002, 05:06 AM	#23
Abe_Froman Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 878	Re: 2002 Openclass Shootout, Part I Or you could just buy a bone-stock, used '98 Huyabusa that would destroy your Muzzy ZX-9 in a drag race. Seems all that some people want to do is twist a grip. There's more to life than that.

03-26-2002, 05:06 AM	#24
minime Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 334	Re: 2002 Openclass Shootout, Part I We've already got some scales accurate to within a couple of pounds (three) of what Motorcyclist magazine's scales are showing. Bada Bing?

03-26-2002, 05:07 AM	#25
jmeyn Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 780	Re: 2002 Openclass Shootout, Part I Come on respondents, they have opinions so shouldn't they tell us what they are and why they have them? The opinions may well change in the course of the the test. I think I'll like the split format with incremental reporting; a good experiment anyway. The print mags can't do this. Let's be patient...

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03-26-2002, 05:23 AM	#26
ValkBandit Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 473	What ... no VALKYRIE??!! I can understand leaving out the Kwacker, which is yet another transverse-four, vacuum-sealed, monkey-humping-a-football, squid bike. But why on Earth would you omit the Honda Valkyrie, which obliterates all the others in the cool derby and is MUCH better for picking up chicks. Sometimes your logic escapes me ...

03-26-2002, 06:00 AM	#27
98Viffer Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 19	Re: 2002 Openclass Shootout, Part I Thanks a lot... now I have to clean up this coffee that I just spewed all over my keyboard!! BWWWAAAHAHAAAHAA!! Nice one, Panther...

03-26-2002, 07:07 AM	#28
BBD_Racing Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 337	Re: 2002 Openclass Shootout, Part I Not until you print the measurements. Ready to go, tank empty preferable. Then you get the bada-bing.

03-26-2002, 07:08 AM	#29
BBD_Racing Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 337	Re: English refresher needed? Is that hot female intern still around? I'd bare with her........

03-26-2002, 07:12 AM	#30
longride Super Duper Mod Man Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Anywhere they let me Posts: 10,484	Re: 2002 Openclass Shootout, Part I rsalas has a valid point up top in his post, but he is assuming 2 things. One, is that the rider can actually turn a wrench to make the upgrades cheaply, and two that said rider can actually use the performance available. Knowledgable and skilled riders and wrenches are like hens teeth these days. I bet one out of 50 guys that post here even know where the tool kit on their bike is, much less how to use it. It is so much easier to run down to the local bike shop and plunk down your dollars on this years wonderbike rather than upgrade your riding skills or actually learn how to maintain your own motorcycle. Race replica motorcycles surpassed the average riders' skill to pilot them about 15 years ago. Which one wins this year matters not as next year it will be 3 lbs lighter and 2 mph faster. At that time squidly must run, not walk, to the dealer and get the "new and improved" model, even though he couldn't ride the last one very well. The funny part is all the screaming and crying about which bike "won" and why. About 99% of you will never see the upper performance limits of these bikes anyway, but knowing your buddy, who can't ride very well either, has this years "winner" is just too much to bear at the bar scene. I believe MO said as much last year when they named the R1 the winner. __________________ I'm a knucklehead