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Old 03-08-2002, 06:11 PM   #121
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Again this bike was built for European riders who like this kind of bike and it is"versatile and realistic" for their type of riding. There are plenty of relatively sedate and good powered, good handling bikes in the US - IMHO if Yamaha had just brought over the same - Well Ho-Hum!!!! and thats from riders and press alike. It's character is about the available motor, handling, and brakes you can use. I've ridden Duc's and seen the new Aprilla's - they have heck of design and flair - but the majority of the new Duc's have lost their real character. I did see a full on race rep Aprilla Mille streetbike , a 1999 version for sale, oh yeah , for $32,000 at Lyle Lovett. It has back breaking riding position, bank breaking costs,

completely unnecessary power, hard edge looks with cobby welds, etc.etc.etc. and from the complete drool factor of everyone looking at it it must have achieved some character.



On the big FJ it will be just as happy rolling along at 65-70 mph as you will. Some upgrades may be in order but can you you really gripe at what it is for $11,000. I ride and own some Harleys too - can you imagine the gouge factor on a bike like this from Harley - probably about as much as the new V-Rod which is about $8000 -10,000 gouge factor.
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Old 03-08-2002, 06:19 PM   #122
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Oh yeah put down my money too and am clearing out two bikes in the shop to make room for the FJR between the Harleys and our new Yammie YZ F four stroke offraod bikes - Good stuff and I've been on Yamaha for 30 years now.
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Old 03-09-2002, 06:22 AM   #123
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Why does it take an intro from one bike maker (Honda's new ST) to get the other guys off their a**es? If Honda hadn't promised an updated ST, Yamaha (and Kawasaki) would still be excluding the US market. I'm not singing Honda's praises, I WON'T be buying the ST1300...not now anyway. Where's my $500?
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Old 03-09-2002, 08:33 AM   #124
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Yep, people only ride (and fast, too!) in Europe. We here in America don't know anything about riding long and fast. Each and every one of us rides a dog slow and primitive Harley, 'cause that's all we know. We don't like road racing either, because all the announcers speak in "British" and without a "Brit To 'Neck" translator we simply get lost trying to suss out the meaning of "It's a ding dong battle at the front and...OH!!! Foggy rips one up the inside!!"



What a load of crap.



If the bike buzzes, it buzzes, and it's a bad thing. People who've ridden and tested the FJR have commented on its being a bit buzzy. They've also commented on the jerky EFI down low.



If Euros find these traits acceptable, more power to 'em. "Character", right?



Bah.



A touring bike shouldn't have buzz. An I4 tends to be buzzier than some other configurations, so a sixth speed might be advisable. BMW's boxers were buzzy with the five speed, so they added a six speed to make it a lot better for distance work.



If it should turn out that the FJR is in fact a bit buzzy and could in fact use a sixth gear will knowing that the bike was built for Europe (where people ride fast!!) provide any solace to an American (or Euro) rider whose hands are going a bit numb?



Btw, America has California, Texas, Montana and countless ****loads of roads that encourage supra legal speeds, to go with our countless ****loads of very fast riders. I think we too know about riding, and riding fast.



If the bike works correctly for its intended mission, it works. If it's a little off, it's a little off, regardless of the continent of intended destination....





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Old 03-10-2002, 06:46 AM   #125
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This reply likely comes a little too late, but all the same....



For the record, I'm not whining about the existence of the FJR, which is just fine with me. I'm merely stating that Yamaha seems to be focused excessively on large-bore machinery (see also the FZ1 reference) and not paying any attention to the lower end of the market. There's a lot of us at beginner levels, or who simply like smaller bikes, and the marketer's rush to bigger and heavier and more powerful across the board isn't everything to all people.



Look at all the enthusiasm for the SRX-6 that's currently being expressed. Why couldn't a good basic 660 single work, and be inexpensive and profitable at the same time?



Again, basic point: Nothing wrong with the big rigs, but there's more to life than that, especially when Yamaha is as soft as it is at the bottom of the market.
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Old 03-10-2002, 07:34 AM   #126
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I could barely finish reading the article because it was so full of marketing hype--this is not journalism! Excellent bike, sure, but the author is clearly on Yamaha's payroll!!



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Old 03-11-2002, 03:02 PM   #127
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Well, after much consideration, I decided I couldnt afford one right now. I dont know how quickly they are selling, I understand dealers are limited to 2 each. If anyone out there wants one and is having trouble finding one, I know of a dealer in my small town in Arizona who still has one available. You can email me at gmarbach@kna.to and I will be happy to give you their phone number.
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Old 03-11-2002, 08:47 PM   #128
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Here's a few reasons why the choices in sport tourers has expanded. The present and future ST is smoother. The BMW is more comfortable. The Connie that I do 14 hour days on buzzes and is never an issue. Relax your grip like the pro racers and LD riders. For those that ride white knuckled you have no choices. It will be the Honda. Have fun. For the the rest of us....chubber over this.

2001 Model Comparo

Honda ST 1100 A / Yamaha FJR 1300 / BMW R1150RT

Top Speed: 129.4 / 153.9 / 128.4

0-60 (sec): 4.15 / 3.20 / 4.40

0-100 (sec) : 11.5 5 / 7.20 / 12.35

0-130 (sec): na / 13.20 / na

braking 100-0 (sec) 5.80 / 4.70 / 4.65

Top gear roll-on 60-90 (sec): (hang on)

10.60 / 4.95 / 8.55

Top gear roll-on 80-120 (sec): (tighten grip)

17.96 / 7.45 / 22.65

Fuel consumption (mpg)

Best : 40 / 44.58 / 53.5

Worst: 28.6 / 34.81 / 35.45

Dry Weight : 297kg / 237kg / 279kg

Seat height: 800mm / 805mm / 805, 825, 845

Fuel Capacity: 28 ltr./ 25 ltr./ 25.5 ltr.

Dyno horsepower

87.8bhp @ 7100 / 122.9bhp @ 8000 / 86.5bhp @ 7100

Dyno torque:

75.2lb/ft @ 5000 / 88.1lb/ft @ 6600 / 71.3lb/ft @ 5600

Wayne pink slipped( FJR ordered) in Texas

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Old 03-12-2002, 06:26 AM   #129
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"Chubber"?? LOL!!!



Yeah, if you go by performance specs, and you use the ST1100A, this one's a white wash. That FJR1300 simply looks like a sportbike compared to touring bikes....
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Old 03-13-2002, 06:02 AM   #130
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No need for a TDM when a superior machine occupying the same niche, the Suzuki V-Strom, will be in dealers later this month.
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