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Old 02-26-2002, 01:58 PM   #11
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what type of performance criteria would you want to have the shootout judged on? 0-60 times? braking? range? burn-out tire longevity? seat pad density? fairing weight?
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Old 02-26-2002, 02:51 PM   #12
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I thought his was an excellent story.</p>[*]Thorough technical description.[*]Intuitive explanation of what it's like to ride the thing.[*]Highly entertaining use of language.


I hope MO will have Sir Daily return with more riding analyses.</p>


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Old 02-26-2002, 02:57 PM   #13
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Seriously, a combination of stats, lap times, potential maintenance issues...



My complaint is this .. (and please pardon the analogy) but Car & Driver doesn't test a Ferrari and focus on luggage space, parking lot prowess and how comfortable grandma is in the passenger seat for the 5 hour ride to Vegas.



These are the upper crust of performance motorcycles. The bikes most of us growing up couldn't have dreamt would ever be a reality. I say have a test to judge them as such.



I agree that most people who buy these can't ride them at 60% of their potential, but that's not the point. Do you think owners of Porsche's/Ferrari's/etc's are any different ?



IMO - talk about the "real world" shortcomings in the individual road tests. The shootout should focus on performance, with the realworld faults being a footnote.



In the same way I wouldn't want to see a test of a tourbike biased on it's horrible race track performance, why bias the race-replica bikes the other way.



Then again, you can't please everyone ... but that's how I see it.
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Old 02-26-2002, 03:05 PM   #14
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What the heck, I'll chime in too. Well written, very entertaining, but then I'm used to reading Brit motomags. Not sure why one wouldn't like it. Maybe it helps if you like big words...
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Old 02-26-2002, 04:03 PM   #15
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Burns?
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Old 02-26-2002, 06:07 PM   #16
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When I opened up the motorcyle.com page I half thought I was looking at a '99 Hayabusa. The colors are almost exactly the same. Of course it was probably just the lighting. I'm anxious to see how the new R1 will stack up this year and hopefully, like others have said, MO will base these bikes on performance first and foremost. But, I guess if they use last year's criteria Suzuki will have to detune the Gixxer so it can compete.
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Old 02-26-2002, 06:12 PM   #17
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'A "we don't need no stinkin wind protection" Open Class Shootout where performance is ALL that matters.........'



Amen brother!
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Old 02-26-2002, 06:14 PM   #18
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You know I could not agree with you more. I just picked up my blue R1, 2/21, and I already am half way to breaking it in. I also have owned a 1999 R6 and a 2000 R1. This R1 is really a work of art both on the road and to look at. My brother just picked up a silver 954, 2/21, and it is a great comparison to ride them back to back. The new R1 is far superior to the older R1s in most every aspect. This thing really can put a smile on your face. I can not praise Yamaha enough for there great product. To hell with the Suzuki lovers. There is more to a bike besides how fast it goes in a striaght line. If that was the case........we would all be riding Hayabusas or ZX-12Rs. I could not agree with you more!!!!
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Old 02-26-2002, 06:17 PM   #19
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Actually, I rather enjoyed the foreign correspondent - a nice changeup in the MO lineup, I think. I thought he did a great job in conveying how the R1 felt.



Granted, I'll never be a great rider , but with all the R1's at my local dealership already sold (and that's here in SD), maybe I should try and find one to ride.



One other stupid back-country 'hick' question: I've seen it alot, and gathered that's it's a less than complimentary moniker, but would someone please define 'a squid' for me in motorcycle terms? I know the seagoing definition, but I'm confused here.



Thanks!!
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Old 02-26-2002, 07:53 PM   #20
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Any prizes for guessing who the author is? I need about one guess... course I live in the same town he does... (and it is a guess, not a known fact at this point)
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