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tripleripple · 06-07-2007, 09:38 AM

"...or are very callous."

familydad, meet Airhawk. Airhawk, familydad.

Kenneth_Moore · 06-07-2007, 09:43 AM

It's a shame the guy is dead. But jumping in front of a moving vehicle because you don't like how they're driving is beyond dumb, it's suicidal. And nobody, even the cops, has a right to risk anyone's life over a damn traffic infraction. I agree with another post, if he'd lived, he should have been charged for reckless endangement at a minimum.

crevans · 06-07-2007, 10:13 AM

Hey, I'm all for contributing. Have any test bikes you want to give me? Want to give me a grand and see how far I can make it last on a roadtrip, then I'll send in a write up? No?

Well, ok then Tom Sawyer, you may have the others fooled, but I ain't payin' y'all for the privilege of whitewashing your fence.

The_AirHawk · 06-07-2007, 10:30 AM

"Some of us still believe in right and wrong. I have made a citizens arrest and would do it again. This man was obviously of the same mindset. Some folks get irritated with jerks who buzz through their neighborhoods at high rates of speed. You obviously don't care about right and wrong, or are very callous."

How do you know that the motorcyclist was traveling at a "high rate of speed"? Because the reporter told you so? Because the "neighbors" told the reporter? High rate of speed in relation to what? If it's posted 35, and he was doing 40-45, is that considered a high rate? Or was it that he merely had a loud exhaust that annoyed the old man?

So, I can't see the difference between Right and Wrong - i.e. to speed, or operate a piece of loud machinery is "Wrong"; but to attempt to assault that person (and actually harm them - even though it resulted in your own Death) is "Right".

Got it. Thanks for the Lesson in Morality.

Yeah, I bet you and the old man ARE of the same mindset............

Kreb_Cycle · 06-07-2007, 10:56 AM

I've gotten my 14 dollars worth this year though, seriously, even if it's weak it still costs less than three printed magazines.

johnnyb · 06-07-2007, 02:48 PM

all's you have to do is become the Editor of MO for awhile, then you get the lifetime subscription and therefore don't feel gypped. Hello Cashley wherever you are...

yeah, i try not to judge these stories without more info. Maybe the old guy wanted to be a stuntah and was trying to get the kid to stop and chat or take him for a 2-man wheelie? ridiculous stuff happens. better to be kilt by a speeding moto at 82 than by an IED at 19. in any case, RIP.

DaveFla · 06-07-2007, 05:47 PM

Sure, Pennsylvania octogenarians think they know how to stunt. But here in West Michigan, it's motorized wheelchairs and semis!

silentgrayfellow · 06-08-2007, 09:30 AM

Ain't that the truth...

The_AirHawk · 06-08-2007, 11:16 PM

You referring to THIS little incident?

"Man, you drive like a Hood Ornament!"

06-07-2007, 09:38 AM	#51
tripleripple Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lightly Fortified Compound (apartment): Chicago, IL Posts: 421	Re: 82-Year-Old Killed Trying to Slow Motorcycle "...or are very callous." familydad, meet Airhawk. Airhawk, familydad.

06-07-2007, 09:43 AM	#52
Kenneth_Moore Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: VIsiting the GIft Shop in the Pit of DIspair Posts: 7,118	Right and Wrong vs. Dumb and Dumber It's a shame the guy is dead. But jumping in front of a moving vehicle because you don't like how they're driving is beyond dumb, it's suicidal. And nobody, even the cops, has a right to risk anyone's life over a damn traffic infraction. I agree with another post, if he'd lived, he should have been charged for reckless endangement at a minimum. __________________ www.kennethmoore.org

06-07-2007, 10:13 AM	#53
crevans Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 114	Re: 82-Year-Old Killed Trying to Slow Motorcycle Hey, I'm all for contributing. Have any test bikes you want to give me? Want to give me a grand and see how far I can make it last on a roadtrip, then I'll send in a write up? No? Well, ok then Tom Sawyer, you may have the others fooled, but I ain't payin' y'all for the privilege of whitewashing your fence.

06-07-2007, 10:30 AM	#54
The_AirHawk Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Leanin' Tower O' P-P-P-P-POWAAAAAAAAA!!!! Posts: 11,431	Re: 82-Year-Old Killed Trying to Slow Motorcycle "Some of us still believe in right and wrong. I have made a citizens arrest and would do it again. This man was obviously of the same mindset. Some folks get irritated with jerks who buzz through their neighborhoods at high rates of speed. You obviously don't care about right and wrong, or are very callous." How do you know that the motorcyclist was traveling at a "high rate of speed"? Because the reporter told you so? Because the "neighbors" told the reporter? High rate of speed in relation to what? If it's posted 35, and he was doing 40-45, is that considered a high rate? Or was it that he merely had a loud exhaust that annoyed the old man? So, I can't see the difference between Right and Wrong - i.e. to speed, or operate a piece of loud machinery is "Wrong"; but to attempt to assault that person (and actually harm them - even though it resulted in your own Death) is "Right". Got it. Thanks for the Lesson in Morality. Yeah, I bet you and the old man ARE of the same mindset............ __________________ *Parfois, on fait pas semblant* Sometimes, it's not pretend Oderint Dum Metuant Let them hate so long as they fear политики предпочитают безоружных крестьян Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants Nothing to see here, Citizen. Move along now...

06-07-2007, 10:56 AM	#55
Kreb_Cycle Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 872	Re: 82-Year-Old Killed Trying to Slow Motorcycle I've gotten my 14 dollars worth this year though, seriously, even if it's weak it still costs less than three printed magazines. __________________ He was a fattish but active man of paralyzing stupidity, a mass of imbecile enthusiasms—one of those completely unquestioning, devoted drudges on whom, more even than on the thought police, the stability of the Party depended. - George Orwell _1984_

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06-07-2007, 02:48 PM	#56
johnnyb Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,597	Re: 82-Year-Old Killed Trying to Slow Motorcycle all's you have to do is become the Editor of MO for awhile, then you get the lifetime subscription and therefore don't feel gypped. Hello Cashley wherever you are... yeah, i try not to judge these stories without more info. Maybe the old guy wanted to be a stuntah and was trying to get the kid to stop and chat or take him for a 2-man wheelie? ridiculous stuff happens. better to be kilt by a speeding moto at 82 than by an IED at 19. in any case, RIP.

06-07-2007, 05:47 PM	#57
DaveFla Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 328	Re: 82-Year-Old Killed Trying to Slow Motorcycle Sure, Pennsylvania octogenarians think they know how to stunt. But here in West Michigan, it's motorized wheelchairs and semis!

06-08-2007, 09:30 AM	#58
silentgrayfellow Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 320	Re: 82-Year-Old Killed Trying to Slow Motorcycle Ain't that the truth...

06-08-2007, 11:16 PM	#59
The_AirHawk Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Leanin' Tower O' P-P-P-P-POWAAAAAAAAA!!!! Posts: 11,431	Re: 82-Year-Old Killed Trying to Slow Motorcycle You referring to THIS little incident? "Man, you drive like a Hood Ornament!" __________________ *Parfois, on fait pas semblant* Sometimes, it's not pretend Oderint Dum Metuant Let them hate so long as they fear политики предпочитают безоружных крестьян Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants Nothing to see here, Citizen. Move along now...