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BrowningBAR 06-04-2007 09:53 AM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
You don't know anything about chains! I am a chain engineer! You are wrong. Your chain didn't last 20,000 miles. I know everything about chains. I have a big house that I paid too much money for and I have an office that shows how important I am! I do other stuff too and I will argue about everything that I am wrong about!



Here is my proof that I know stuff:

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/motorcycle2.htm



http://motorcycles.about.com/cs/main...olubachain.htm



http://nostalgia.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle


bbtowns 06-04-2007 10:20 AM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
I would bother with a top of the line chain, but if you look around you can find it for less than $200 online, or at least you should be. I usually find a X ring chain for around $120 bucks or so if I keep my eyes peeled.

Depending on the bike, 20K miles is pretty reasonable for a chain. I tend to get about 16K, but it all depends how's it's used, how it's lubed, and how much power it has to transmit. I suppose chain life is also related to how often you're willing to adjust the slack. Once it has to be adjusted every 500 miles I'm replacing mine.

mscuddy 06-04-2007 10:48 AM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
I use to buy the chepaest chain I can find (non o ring, RK or similar) and keep it cleaned & oiled.



Also, I use to "boil the chain" in old crancase drippings from my wife's slick-50'd Isuzu every third cleaning.



Never had any chain problems on ANY of my bikes. Had some high-horsepower dirty & street bikes too.



Cheap+Clean+Lubed=long life.




sarnali2 06-04-2007 11:35 AM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
I'd get a decent Tsubaki, D.I.D. or Regina O ring chain. You don't need top shelf, just get one rated for your bike, probably 10,000 lbs or something. The best prices I found in the past have been Motorcycle Acessorie Warehouse for the chain and Sprocket Specialists for the sprockets. If you go with steel you should be able to find both sprockets and the chain for $200. Plus they have a pretty good size range so you can gear up or down if you wish.



Just adjust it at the loose end of the range and keep it clean and you shouldn't have to adjust it more than once or twice.

mscuddy 06-04-2007 11:53 AM

Re: Feh.
 
O ring, schmoe ring. Who needs 'em? You can't clean an o-ring chain with pre-mix (gas) . Or boil it in oil. Mmmm, smell that boiling oil.



Doesn't anyone boil the chain in 'earl anymore? Call me a dinosaur...

johnnyb 06-04-2007 12:02 PM

Re: Feh.
 
alright you're a dinosaur.



no, nobody does that. I figgered out on my kid's RM85 (and previous YZ85), that the stock cheapy chain that comes on there lasts a good long time if i use the stuff from the bicycle store; Krylon i think it's called. Little green bottle. Sets up a delicious dry, slick film that dirt does not stick to. Good stuff. Don't know how it would work on more powerful bigger bike? But I never have to clean his chain, just hose off the dirt...

seruzawa 06-04-2007 12:06 PM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
Is the adjuster all the way to the end? Maybe there's another 10,000 miles left in that chain!

The_AirHawk 06-04-2007 12:07 PM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
I just wait 'til my sprockets are worn-down enough to fit, then steal #50 drivechain from work.........

mscuddy 06-04-2007 12:37 PM

Re: Krylon?
 
Maybe try the candy apple red next time. Make the chain look like it's been soaked in blood.



That or primer gray...

Kenneth_Moore 06-04-2007 12:50 PM

And if you had ANY sense at all..
 
You'd change the sprockets and chain to pulleys and a belt. If they can handle the pavement pounding power of the BIG TWINS, your puny machine should go 1,000,000 miles with one belt.

Gritboy 06-04-2007 01:10 PM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
Right on the money. I just replaced mine after 18k (no more adjustment possible) with an X-ring for $120.

johnnyb 06-04-2007 01:18 PM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
Ms Cuddy will testify for the Buell belt I am certain... if not for the rest of it.

mscuddy 06-04-2007 01:25 PM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
Yes, but just try finding a master link for a Buell. Better yet, call the dealer and ask for one. Tell the parts dude they're on the shelf, right next to the spin darts & muffler bearings.

The_AirHawk 06-04-2007 01:38 PM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
They hung-up on me.

mscuddy 06-04-2007 01:42 PM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
Bastards.

manalagi001 06-04-2007 03:41 PM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
+1. Complete and concise.

HighsideHarry 06-04-2007 03:41 PM

Re: Feh.
 
Nonono....you don't boil 'em in oil, you clean them and then soak them in hot paraffin. Sucker stays lubed for a *long* time that way.



That's pre-dinosaur, but it works!

ksquid 06-04-2007 04:37 PM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
You mean you have to replace the chain? Yikes..


ksquid 06-04-2007 04:37 PM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
I knew I should of bought the Buell last year..

The_AirHawk 06-04-2007 04:39 PM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
Only when they wear out. You've still got 40 or 50 years to go, no problem.

ksquid 06-04-2007 05:13 PM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
Wew thanks... You guys had me going for a second..

ksquid 06-04-2007 05:14 PM

Re: Feh.
 
Yep don't do what I did I used that Teflon stuff and it spat all over and the guys at the shop thought I had a oil leak..

ksquid 06-04-2007 05:15 PM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
LOL Ok I deserve it..I am prick..

sarnali2 06-04-2007 05:30 PM

Re: Feh.
 
But but...oil makes my bike all messy, plus it gets on the garage floor and smells bad.

mscuddy 06-04-2007 05:30 PM

Re: Feh.
 
You or the bike?

ksquid 06-04-2007 05:32 PM

Re: Feh.
 
probably both..:)

TheFox 06-04-2007 05:59 PM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
Yeah, you can do that anytime. Your chain's about to jump the sprocket it's so loose.



--Foxy

Holy_Kaw 06-04-2007 06:57 PM

Re: Feh.
 
Best lube I've come across (street app.), by far, is called Silkolene by Fuchs. Probably better to wait until you're done having Kids before starting to use it because the stuff is NASTY! After I read the warnings I almost dropped the un-used can in my haste to wash my hands. It is REALLY good though...

sfcdjevans 06-04-2007 07:28 PM

Must have been different stuff
 
Actually DuPont Teflon Multi Purpose Dry Wax Lube works very well, in my experience

svtech 06-04-2007 11:42 PM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
should of .. should of .. should of .. should of ..



I'll bet those blackboard lessons will be a hoot.



MO V2.0 -- soon to appear at a web site near you.

xlr8r 06-05-2007 04:01 AM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
X-ring? O-ring? How about no-ring? Anyone who's ever been on vacation in the developing world and rented a bike for a couple of days to get around on will know that the chains on rental bikes are run totally dry, never changed or adjusted, and apparently last forever. Mind you, the drive lash is so severe that it prevents you from exceeding 30 mph because you're so frightened that the whole thing is going to wrap itself around your legs and sever a foot or something that you ride really carefully. Maybe that's why the rental guys keep them that way...

The_AirHawk 06-05-2007 07:32 AM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
Nah, believe it or not I adjusted it. This aftermarket one's not holding-up as good as the OEM did: got over 27k on THAT one before I just tossed it (because it was too noisy!).



Only lubed it twice.............

The_AirHawk 06-05-2007 07:34 AM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
Nah, it's because they don't even know there's a chain on the bike, or that the engine crankcase contains oil.............

DaveFla 06-05-2007 08:28 AM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
Could be worse - they might look at you funny and offer to special order it, for 50% down.


Kreb_Cycle 06-05-2007 10:13 AM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
Yeah, I'm considering just getting better leg armour so it doesn't sever my foot and just accept that I may have to leap from the bike if the chain wraps itself around the rear wheel when it finally goes. I've been worried about it long enough at this point that I've nearly stopped worrying. It's like not going to the dentist.

silentgrayfellow 06-05-2007 11:14 AM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
hey BrowningBAR, you forgot to substitute some homynyms for some of the words in your post, speak about yourself in the third person, and the all important:



SGF sez chains are going the way of the dodo. In the future, all motorcycles will have a low maintenance shaft or belt drive coupled to a V-4 powerplant.

silentgrayfellow 06-05-2007 11:23 AM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
Are you kidding? The shops that rent out those deathtrap old stepthroughs always have some guy around who can keep 'em going on baling wire and JB Weld. They know the bikes need maintenance, but they don't care! Just wait until it grenades then rebuild it or scavenge it for spares...

TomSmith 06-09-2007 08:28 AM

Re: In the market for new chain and sprockets
 
I read it, but I liked the chainsaw info best. Where can I get a hockey goalie mask to go with it?


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