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Old 05-03-2007, 07:30 AM   #101
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I-5 and 405 are very dangerous in the situations that were mentioned - early rush hour with fast, tight traffic. I commute in Seattle, and when I'm southbound on I-5 where 520 joins it on the left and Mercer joins it on the right, there are alot of cars crossing all 5 lanes of traffic from one side to the other without looking. That is far more dangerous than 99, especially because of the speeds involved.
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Old 05-03-2007, 07:43 AM   #102
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My experience is that the sight line gain with a late apex is NOT significant given typical road speeds, but the favorable lane positioning automatically provided with a tight line is QUITE significant .



I too have read and re-read Hough, Code, Ianetech, etc., etc, and spent a couple of years trying the late apex style. I am aware of the need for a quick transition with the late apex and see that as a disadvantage on the STREET, where traction and road surface and hazzards appear suddenly and without warning. NEEDING a QUICK transition bothers me in street conditions, where my 43 years of riding survival tell me that SMOOTH is the answer.



Again, I tried the late apex style for a couple of years and find that, at least for me, it does not provide the safety cushion I need for the street. I believe I am not entirely alone in this feeling; I think a close reading of Reg Pridmore's book provides some support for my "Tight is Right" approach to smooth street survival tactics.
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Old 05-03-2007, 07:56 AM   #103
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I know exactly what you mean because I commute on 167 and I-5 every day. You're wasting your breath trying to explain something like that to our hero, he bought the dinette set.
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:05 AM   #104
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Just remember the acronym SLPR (pronounced "SLAPPER")
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:39 AM   #105
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You don't let up, and it's still funny.
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:46 AM   #106
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Scares the pants off of me. I did that same commute up until December.
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:52 AM   #107
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Well several years ago Oedipus let it fly that his momma was significantly older than him.



The story all came together after that.
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Old 05-03-2007, 09:00 AM   #108
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Ya, I always hear "If you're in too fast, just lean it over more." That might work on perfect asphalt with warm, sticky tires, but riding in Seattle, that is HORRIBLE advice, and a recipe for a lowside, IMO. If you're in too fast and don't have absolute faith in your tires, you need to lean off the bike to get a little more traction. If you're not yet dragging hard parts, easing off the throttle, while lowering the suspension, should let you scrub enough speed to make it through the corner and get home for some new underpants. Of course, the best advice is to not get in too fast in the first place.
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Old 05-03-2007, 10:04 PM   #109
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Amen! The only part I really care about anyway is the corner itself. so gliding up to a corner and touching the brakes just a tad is much less unsettling to a bikes chassis than standing on the brakes till the last nanosecond. Every bit of traction is available for the corner. Don't get on the throttle until you know how the corner ends.
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Old 05-03-2007, 10:07 PM   #110
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Good use of facts/figures
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