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SpeedwayRN 04-09-2007 10:11 AM

Re: Social Responsibility vs. Dollar Figures
 
Both!

testcase 04-09-2007 10:13 AM

Re: Social Responsibility vs. Dollar Figures
 
Git sum digits, yo.

mscuddy 04-09-2007 10:15 AM

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word

ejis 04-09-2007 10:15 AM

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Moral or not, they have an economic responsibility to sell a person the best bike for them, not necessarily the one they think they want.



Selling one bike is great, short term, but if a person gets good honest service and starts a relationship with a dealer and sport, then they will sell many more bikes in the future.



In this instance, you sell those two sportbikes, they will almost certainly drop them at the least. That will likely be enough to dissuade them from riding, and that dealer has lost a potential long term customer. Remember that the service departments are where they make most of the money anyway.



Worst case is they buy the bike, do something stupid and hurt themselves and now you've got potential lawsuits (legitimate or not, it costs money to defend).



What's best for the customer may be best for the dealer too.



I say we legislate this to make sure that all the businesses do what's best for them. Tiered licensing anyone?

testcase 04-09-2007 10:24 AM

Re: Social Responsibility vs. Dollar Figures
 
Interesting. I haven't heard of any lawsuits of that nature myself and now that I think about it, I'm surprised I haven't. Any one got some info on this or should that be a different Ask MO? :)

pplassm 04-09-2007 10:26 AM

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Mandating an operator's license at the time of registration would go a long way towards ending this sort of nonsense.

boru4761 04-09-2007 10:27 AM

Re: Social Responsibility vs. Dollar Figures
 
Man, I was totally with you right up to the end...



Where you finally laid down your tiered liscensing card.

ejis 04-09-2007 10:32 AM

Re: Social Responsibility vs. Dollar Figures
 
Did that need a smiley? I thought the sarcasm was there...guess not.

acecycleins 04-09-2007 10:44 AM

Re: Social Responsibility vs. Dollar Figures
 
Staying away from the Driver's license issue: It is completely irresponsible for a sales person to take the approach you stated. I have worked in the industry from every stand point of the sales, finance and insurance side of the business. Every company I have worked with would offer a MSF card and tell the customer to take the class first before considering a sportbike of 600cc or greater. Any bike for that matter. After that- it is up to the informed consumer to decide to purchase or not. I will tell you this- In 8 years of insurance I make the following bet with EVERY inexperienced rider (no matter the age) that picks a sportbike for the first ride: the bet- I bet Steaks and drinks that you break the bike within the first 6 wks of ownership. Doesn't matter if you drop it in the driveway or ride it off a mountain, but you will break plastic in the first 6 wks. In 8 years I have never had to pay on that bet and have collected more than a few times from the honest customer that will admit to the damage.

testcase 04-09-2007 10:50 AM

Re: Social Responsibility vs. Dollar Figures
 
My own story is somewhat similar.. I had freshly minted MSF card and endorsement but was very clear to the salesguy ("Whats up, bro?? What bike you taking home with you today, man?") that I had only THAT experience on bikes and was nervous about starting on something that would get out of hand on me.



His solution?



The Honda CBRF4i. Cuz "A ninja 250 can't go fast enough to get on the freeway."





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