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Old 04-09-2007, 01:13 PM   #41
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Old 04-09-2007, 01:15 PM   #42
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In my opinion, this is what should happen. Let the guy do what he wants, but make a sincere effort to align "what he wants" with "what is smart".
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Old 04-09-2007, 01:16 PM   #43
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A good sales manager and sales team will offer the information needed for the inexperienced rider to make an informed decision. If the customer decides that a supersport bike is the way he/she wants to go then the salesperson and manager will come to terms with the customer and a bike will be delivered. That said- I stated earlier that I have never worked in a bike shop that has not (at the very least) put a MSF business card in the hand of an inexperienced rider and told them that they need to check into the course. What else is a sales person supposed to do at that point? The salesperson that is the subject of this thread is a real moron and his sales manager is obviously the not interested in long term repeat customers.

I hate to say it this way but in motorcycle sales the sales team must first assume that everyone is inexperienced and while qualifying the sale discover the experience level.
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Old 04-09-2007, 01:19 PM   #44
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Indeed.



So, by logical progression, if we regulate the sale of sportbikes, there will be a black market for them. Will I be able to buy the latest 1000cc superbike from the same guy who sells imported DVDs and fake Rolexes? I'd really like to get all my shopping done in one place...
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Old 04-09-2007, 01:23 PM   #45
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I've solved this motorcyles and new people thing.



I try to talk them out of it.



Saves me a lot of guilt.
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Old 04-09-2007, 01:26 PM   #46
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I believe that there are places in the US where you can indeed buy all those things from the same guy. LA or NYC come to mind.
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Old 04-09-2007, 01:28 PM   #47
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Yeah the answer is we need more government! Thats always made life easier! How do you legislate common sense.......you cant.
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Old 04-09-2007, 01:32 PM   #48
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I heard the same kind of recommendation to a 16 year-old boy. "The 600 is perfect for a beginner!", said the 18 year-old salesboy.

I couldn't keep my mouth shut. "Are you nuts? This kid will kill himself as he leaves the parking lot."



The salesboy glared at me. Long story short, this sales expert didn't even have a motorcycle license!



Fortunately the customer was with his father and I convinced him to start his kid on a second hand Rebel. Purchased from the place across the street!



I encourage all Mofo's to speak up when they hear sales BS. No one should chance learning on a street legal racer! Some Nazi is just waiting for three of four newbies on sportbikes to kill themselves, so he can jump in with more regulations and expense for everyone.



Not even Valentino started with 100 hp!





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Old 04-09-2007, 01:41 PM   #49
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I'd be in real trouble!



All I'd be allowed to drive'd be my boys Home Depot Caterpillar Tractor (PowerWheels), and I'm WAY too big to fit. Little b@stard will drive that bucket right into your ankles, given a fraction of a chance!



Off-topic alert!



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Old 04-09-2007, 01:54 PM   #50
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Funny how the EVIL H-D dealers are ahead of the curve on this. Many offer programs where if one buys a Sportster, the dealer will give the full price on a trade for a big twin within a certain time period.



Why don't the Big Four do that with Ex250s?
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