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Old 04-09-2007, 11:26 AM   #21
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My mom wants to get her license. She's 49 and never ridden before. I do know she's signed up for the MSF course(will ride Blasts) and isn't going to buy a bike(cruiser) until after the couse.



I know it's all fine and dandy that she's taking the course, but she'll still be wonderfully terrible. And yes I'll be worried about her.
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:29 AM   #22
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If that were the case I'd be licensed for a Tohatsu Run Pet....
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:36 AM   #23
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ditto the sarcasm...some don't have the sarcasm detection gene
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:39 AM   #24
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While I agree with the Libertarian point of view on personal responsibility and a minimum of "gummit" intrusion in my life, I like the fact that the meat my kid eats has at least some quality regulations required. Or that licensed contractors installed the wires in our house. Nobody minds (ok maybe somebody does) driver's licenses, why is it such a stretch that we need a different license for such a different vehicle? Yes personal responsibility should be excercised first, but to throw out all the restraints of society (including governement regulations) is societal suicide. Especially in this crowded world. We aren't cowboys on the range anymore. Is there not a resonable midpoint between the two?
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:48 AM   #25
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The examples you bring up have NOTHING to do with what I just said. Meat and wiring have NOTHING to do with buying a motorcycle. If the dealer has to be responsible for adults purchasing a motorcycle, then something went f&cking wrong in this world. Do you need someone to make sure you are able to cook the meat properly before they sell it to you, and then make sure you can digest it properly too? I never said to 'throw out all the restraints'. I said that personal responsibility needs to be applied in this situation.
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:48 AM   #26
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Moral Responsitility and Capitolism are like oil and water, the two dont mix.
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:50 AM   #27
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Darnit - I want the CHOICE whether my contractor is lisenced. What FUN is it to know that the work done was to code? Where's the EXCITEMENT in that?
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:58 AM   #28
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Natural Selection at its finest.



I'm a firm believer in baptism by fire. If people haven't educated themselves about the decisions their making; do we really want these people to reproduce?



If we keep pushing for more restrictions and moral responsibility we are going to seriously f**k up evolution.
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:58 AM   #29
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Sir, you should know, that .44 magnum can be dangerous if you shoot it at yourself or others.



May I suggest a .22 rifle instead?



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Old 04-09-2007, 11:58 AM   #30
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This is basically the reverse of the "slippery slope" argument though. You're saying that one has nothing to do with the other, and common sense dictates where regulation and personal responsibility begins.



I'm NOT for regulating what dealers can sell. I am in favor of dealers, who know better than the newbie, providing a reality check based on experience. This is personal and professional responsibility by the dealer.



To put this in another context, would you want a pharmacist to give percoset (sp?) to anyone who came in the door and asked? What about some anti-malarial drug? Or an AIDS ****tail? These things are controlled because people don't always know what they need, and the wrong information could be very harmful.
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