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Old 04-10-2007, 10:10 AM   #121
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the hell we will. Tehy vote to outlaw it, you vote against. Do you think every biker out there will vote for that law? Do you really think something like that could make it through the legislature?



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Old 04-10-2007, 10:15 AM   #122
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You haven't learned that bumping your gums has more value than doing something?
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:23 AM   #123
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a 14 year old is not an adult, and beyond that, carrying a firearm into a bar is illegal in almost every state. But of course, it's good for an example, right?



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Old 04-10-2007, 10:54 AM   #124
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Yep, got centerpunched by some nitwit in an SUV, didn't even see the a hole. I was just crusing along at about 30 mph. The XB9 was totalled, and the impact from the SUV broke all my ribs, shattered my left scapula and severed my spinal cord at the T12 vertebrae.



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Old 04-10-2007, 11:09 AM   #125
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Agreed but how many sawed off shotguns are involved in accidents or crimes not many...
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:10 AM   #126
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:22 AM   #127
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You know, in the future they'll look back at our times and use the global warming hystreria as an example of how whole populations can be manipulated into taking completely insane actions. The GW freaks are every bit as insane as the brown shirts were in Germany in the 30's.



I mean, look at it, the world's foremost GW manipulator owns three homes, drives in SUVs, flys in a private jet and has a monthly utilities bill in the thousands. The fact that he isn't laughed off the stage every where he goes only demonstrates just how gullible so many people are.



I'll bet that Algore would certainly support tiered licensing. He's in perfect company.
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:32 AM   #128
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I forgot about that, good point. 18 year-olds are the perfect customers for financing expensive motorcycles as well.
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:35 AM   #129
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Nope, 100% wrong.



Most "Big 4" dealer / manufacturer finance programs now are basically unsecured revolving (credit card style) personal loans, they have no lien against the bike and don't care if you insure it or not.



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Old 04-10-2007, 11:38 AM   #130
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Yes, they can decide to go fight in Iraq with m16's, they can decide to buy any kind of motorcycle they want.



At some point they're legally adults, in the US it's 18. Perhaps that number is the wrong one, but that's not what the discussion is about, no? We're discussing fully legally responsible adults and their legal abilities to decide for themselves what kind of motorcycle they want to buy.
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