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Old 04-09-2007, 06:55 AM   #71
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Default Re: Big Scooters: Economical, or Just Trendy?

At 60 mph in top gear, the Nomad is turning only 2600 rpm. At 70 it's turning 3000. In relatively steady-state backroad cruising with very few stops over several hours of riding, it can hit 50 mpg.
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Old 04-09-2007, 07:14 AM   #72
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I wasn't even talking to you. If you knew how shytty seruzaWa has treated me along with the names he has called me, I guarantee you wouldn't have jumped into the mud. seruzaWa is the biggest crybaby of them all. He used to cry every week to Sean...
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Old 04-09-2007, 07:14 AM   #73
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You should sleep on it. Yikes the time stamp on your post.
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Old 04-09-2007, 07:14 AM   #74
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Get a small displacement single or twin moto and learn to not twist the throttle so much and you'll be sucking less gas (50+ mpg) dramatically.



The small tires on scooters make for poor freeway performance (wear, stability, etc), but they're excellent for congested city streets.
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Old 04-09-2007, 07:27 AM   #75
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Thanks for the link. Intersesting reading.

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Old 04-09-2007, 07:35 AM   #76
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They are trendy and handy for toting stuff to and from the office. They are also a pain in the ass to maintain. I'd get a Ninja 250 for great around town ability and mileage. Maybe even a Buell Blast. It doesn't require much maintenance and if you drop it, it will only get prettier.
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Old 04-09-2007, 07:43 AM   #77
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Keep wearing this psychopath's shirt cuz he's so brooding and intense and makes your jeans damp, you stoopid Commie f**ks. 100 million dead for your grand experiment. Oh, well, can't make a crappy, inedible omelate without breaking a few million eggs, eh?



Rage Against the Machine can kiss my a$$ with their Red Star drum kit. The Red Star is morally equivalent to a swastika. Speaking of which, the Nazis weren't right-wing. Clue: National Socialist German Worker's Party. Birds of a feather.



Filthy Cuban hospitals! Berlin Wall! Universal misery! Gack! Sputter!



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Old 04-09-2007, 07:48 AM   #78
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Good point. The Blast gets better if you stop thinking of it as a lame motorcycle and start thinking of it as a cool scooter.
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Old 04-09-2007, 07:58 AM   #79
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There have been some interesting studies on how to maximize fuel economy for any given vehicle - not all the results were obvious.



First of all, revs are not free, when it comes to fuel economy. This is one of the reasons that high strung fours often get poor fuel economy, but it's a product of how it's ridden (or tuned/geared), not engine architecture. Short shifting will greatly increase economy. This is where overdrive, and torquey twins, really shine.



Second, slow acceleration to cruise is NOT as efficient as WOT acceleration (while short shifting) to get to the efficient cruise speed faster. You can apply this to urban riding too, your cruise speed will just have to be much slower for it to work.



Finally, tire pressure, chain cleanliness/condition, etc. all play a primary role in efficiency.



Granted I'm a rocket scientist (yes, I have a couple degrees in it...) and not an automotive engineer, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night...
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THANK YOU for the belly laugh. LOL!
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