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Old 01-17-2007, 11:28 AM   #21
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"We all know what would happen if we depended on personal ethics, though, don't we?"



Ummmm, since the govt is made up of people (news flash) you are still depending on personal ethics.
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Old 01-17-2007, 11:32 AM   #22
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Now that is funny.. OK have you been moonlighting at Comedy Central for John Stewart? There is also the anti-union thing going on this site too..I read a great article yesterday how Toyota is confounding conventional wisdom about U.S. manufacturing by "It's offering union wages and good health insurance and selling the products its American workers make to Americans, profitably and more inexpensively than its U.S. competitors " read more
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Old 01-17-2007, 11:36 AM   #23
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That's what happens when you're a college dropout- you tend to over-simplify things for the common man. Mostly becase the insurance business sucks and it's hard to understand in the first place. I just break it down into good 'ol southern boy talk. Most get it. Some will never.
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Old 01-17-2007, 11:51 AM   #24
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Does it bother you that you end up paying for the uninsured when their helmetless ride ends badly?



If Biker Billy takes the Taxpayer Express to Veggieville then what does that cost?



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Old 01-17-2007, 11:57 AM   #25
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That's what "oversight" is for.



Do you think that a building is gonna get built because the workers want it to be? The foreman is going to have make sure it does. Same in government.



If your government is not working, join the political process and get it changed.



That's why the US professes to be a democracy isn't it? Or are you against that too?



Bottom line is that a large group of people acting together is always going to prevail against an individual trying to hold their own.

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Old 01-17-2007, 12:01 PM   #26
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Excellent point.. Balance of Power thing etc. SEC oversees the equity and bond markets.Imagine if they didn't... more Enrons ...
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Old 01-17-2007, 12:13 PM   #27
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I got a SUBSTANTIAL discount for my own insurance by sending in my course certificate with my insurance application. The discount was at least twice what my course cost.



But then, I insure with a specialist motorcycle insurer ... maybe that's the difference?
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Old 01-17-2007, 12:14 PM   #28
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Just a quick note: AMERICA IS NOT A DEMOCRACY!!! It's a republic- founded in principal on "rule of law" and served by elected officals. But you knew that, didn't you?
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Old 01-17-2007, 12:24 PM   #29
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You have me confused with an anarchist. I'm only saying that blind trust in govt is very foolish.



For example the EPA was coming after some of my relatives for someone else's illegal dumping of tires on their property in Wyoming. The EPA didn't care who the criminal was they just wanted the money from the landowners for cleanup. Fortunately there was a Wyoming health inspector who wrote a letter to the Feds that got my relatives off the hook. The EPA was worried about West Nile mosquitos. So that worked out, but it could have been nasty seeing these elderly retirees forced out of their homes by the Feds.



The city I live in gave a developer a waiver to put a smaller culvert in my neighborhood than required by law. Some of the homes had their basements flood with sewage as a result. The city tried to force the homeowners to pay to fix the problem. It turned out that the pol who forced the waiver was a relative of the developer.



In other areas criminal collusions between private companies and regulatory agencies are well documented. The revolving door between DOD and Defense contractors is one. The revolving door between the FDA and drug companies is another.



There are good people and bad people in everything. Mostly good people really. But only a fool places blind trust in anything. We're too quick to jump to more legislation in this country. In dealing with the govt you are still relying on the personal ethics of the govt employees.



And to answer your question I have occasionally talked to my State Rep and Senator about various issues. No, I don't just sit on my @ss and complain. I troop up to the Statehouse and complain too!
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Old 01-17-2007, 12:39 PM   #30
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If "we the people" don't make our positions clear then our Imperial Federal Gov't will be glad to make our decisions for us.

Good to see some people actually take a stand on things and are willing to show the feds we care about what happens in our lives.
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