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Old 01-18-2007, 10:04 AM   #91
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Every mandated incremental restriction on our lives is always sold to us by the paternalists as a moderate action that no reasonable person would object to. You wanna gulp down trans fatty acid, stuff yourself with free radicals, or ride helmetless, go ahead. I really don't care. Sure, the rest of us will pay the freight for these folks as we always have. It is what it is - a societal surcharge of sorts. As for tiered licenses, how will that restrain the 4 criminally reckless fools on their ZFRGXRGPK's who lane-splitted their way past me at 100 MPH on NY's Sagtikos Pkwy last week? We all need to face the fact that it won't! What tiering will do is anger and frustrate with arbitrary regs and protocols the law-abiding bro who's in love with a certain 600 and can finally afford it, but is only "certified" to operate a 599 or under. Can U imagine instituting the same kind of standards on the cage-driver population? There would be a national revolution. But, we are willing to inflict this on ourselves? Quite simply, we can not give any bureaucrat this kind of power. When we accept human nature for what it is and understand that laws are not obeyed by those they are written to control, we will be closer to realistically addressing this issue. Pending that, these discussions will go on ad nauseam.
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:08 AM   #92
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I is fukked
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:13 AM   #93
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It seems like every time something goes wrong with administrative oversight someone says it was just an oversight.
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:14 AM   #94
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Combine the standards into SNOT.
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:28 AM   #95
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I agree.
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Old 01-18-2007, 11:15 AM   #96
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That would be Pat Robertson of course, possibly my Favorite Jesus Freak, he's a riot! Did you know he could leg press 2000 lbs? Yoda could kick the cr@p outta us!



Catch the front running candidate for CHANGE yelling with a yelling and cheering crowd and then have the crowd noise electronically removed making him look like an idiot? Play continuously for days on ALL news channels until the guy drops out and the "fix" can be on, again?



Now the BAD news... better make that February '09... maybe we shouldn't pay them to campaign for their next job until, say, three months before the election? Be a lot easier to make that case if anything of Major Importance was going on these days...
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Old 01-18-2007, 11:50 AM   #97
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Actually, we just have the gardener do the yard for us; he'll use the Toro as a hedge trimmer.
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Old 01-18-2007, 12:58 PM   #98
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Motorcycles are dangerous. Why nibble around the edges with tiered licensing, helmet laws, and all these other half-measures. Ban motorcycles and you save lives – about 5,000 a year here in the U.S. The motorcycle fatality rate will become zero no matter how you calculate it. Motorcyclists on European and Japanese websites will look at our M/C fatality rates and wonder if such a system would be effective in their unique environments.



From a personal standpoint, a motorcycle ban is probably the only thing that can save me from motorcycle-induced death or serous injury. I already do all the half-measures that others on this forum advocate. I always wear a full-face Snell approved helmet, leathers or armored synthetic riding gear, motorcycle-specific riding boots, and over the wrist gloves. I am meticulous about maintenance. I change my tires when they get to the wear bars. I took the MSF Basic Course (or whatever the Navy called it) in 1976 and the Experienced Riders Course (two-up) a few years ago. I do two or three track days a year. I study the skills columns in the M/C rags and practice, practice, practice. I donÂ’t drink and ride. All this I do, and at any moment some a-hole could blow a stoplight, a truck could throw a recap, or Bambi could fixate on my headlight and my life could come to a brutal, painful, motorcycle-induced end. I know this danger, and yet I am "too stupid" to stop riding on my own. Oh, the tragedy of it all! Please, Big Brother, make me stop!



Want more good arguments to support a motorcycle ban? Just pick any of the above pro-helmet law arguments and substitute the words "motorcycle ban" for "helmet law."



Motorcycles are dangerous.

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Old 01-18-2007, 01:28 PM   #99
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I refer you to T.S. Eliot



"I grow old Â… I grow old Â…

I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled.



Shall I part my hair behind? Do I dare to eat a peach?

I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach... "



We need to be sure we don't suck the juice from the peach before we get to risk having it run down our clothing.
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Old 01-18-2007, 01:39 PM   #100
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Neither party's front running candidates (announced and otherwise) are worth a damn IMHO. Hope that the circumvention of the Electoral College goes through, Dems/Repubs both have major intrinsic flaws IMO.



Willing to bet calling someone a Neo-Con (P.N.A.C.) will be fighting words soon, in jail or hell. Could just be wishful thinking.



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