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Old 12-25-2006, 01:11 PM   #71
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Did the EU really study this, or are you BSing?



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Old 12-25-2006, 04:43 PM   #72
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Default Re: Ask Kent Kunitsugu of SportsRider Magazine.

OH, INDEED! I mean, MCN is RIGHT THERE with the Republicans and Bush-apologists - everybody knows that!



They merely published their findings in such a way as to Directly Discredit YOU, Dude. Because, Fred is ALWAYS posting here on MO and you two are ALWAYS at odds with one-another.



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Old 12-25-2006, 10:07 PM   #73
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Darn,

I was really hoping to find someone justifying the need to "lay-r-down"

But since there is no such response, I think a lot of the choir is doing the talking, here.



Instead of getting irritated by the "laid her down" comment, (if you have the time) you should enjoy taking apart the flawed logic of such an opinion. In my experience, the rider you're discussing it with will either:

1. Admit they need training

2. Walk away from you.
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Old 12-26-2006, 02:10 AM   #74
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The fact is that laying er down is the only option when tboning a car or truck at speed is inevitable. If you don't get on the ground, you're going to go airborne, through windshields and etc. Results not good. On the asphalt you become your own friction, slowing quicker.
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Old 12-26-2006, 03:20 AM   #75
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Sorry, but I still prefer to at least attempt to scrub-off as much speed as possible with brakes and tyres - whilst still upon them. If I go down - fine. I'm down, now I'll do what little I can on the pavement.



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Old 12-26-2006, 03:35 AM   #76
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Default Re: Ask Kent Kunitsugu of SportsRider Magazine.

A true battle between one idiot that doesn't ride, and another that has ridden and wrote about it most of his life.
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Old 12-26-2006, 04:15 AM   #77
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Not sure anyone has a proven answer to the Tbone scenario. I'm merely raising what seems to me to be a logical idea. For one thing, if you do it right you might be able to slide into the vehicle bikefirst and feetfirst vs. headfirst otherwise. No guarantees thats for sure.
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Old 12-26-2006, 04:35 AM   #78
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One is a highly respected/experienced Motorcyclist...



The IRONY slays me.





You gotta know this is just a little stratagem designed to stir things up. It worked. Hi Kpaul.



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Old 12-26-2006, 06:15 AM   #79
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Let me relate what could be the proper use of the Lay-R-Down. One time while being chased by Columbian hit men in muscle cars it was necessary for me to first execute a stopie, then use my body weight to spin the bike 180 degrees. This allowed me to return fire and take out 50% of them. Out of bullets, it was now time for evasive action. As they chased me through downtown LA I saw my opportunity. An 18 wheeler was pulling out of a side street ahead of me. With the Columbians in hot pursuit, I layed the bike down sliding under the truck. The bad guys were not so lucky, as they couldn't stop in time and their cars exploded into massive fire balls (original brakes on the 'Cuda I guess). I was able to then take my time and rendezvous with a fine Columbian philly. Things got a little dicey when she handed me the bag loaded with cash and I had to disarm the bomb within. Do I cut the red wire or blue? But that's for another web site.



In closing, I've only had to use that move 3 times, so I concur that it's effectiveness is limited.
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Old 12-26-2006, 06:39 AM   #80
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So learning tricks from the flea circus really does save lives? Huh.
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