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Old 12-24-2006, 09:10 AM   #51
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I thought towing a boat was the most hazardous thing you've done bikewise. Or did you sober up and completely forget that you asked us our opinions about doing that before you tried it.
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Old 12-24-2006, 09:12 AM   #52
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Have you got your towel?
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Old 12-24-2006, 10:35 AM   #53
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I've laid-r-down twice on the street. Once when a pickup truck ran a red light on my left as I approached an intersection in the rain going about 40. I tried to slow down and go right at the same time, lost traction in the rear end. This was in 1977 on a '76 RD400 that had a rear disc brake with very poor feel. I'd have preferred not to have gone down. I certainly did not try to, but I did lay-r-down and did avoid being run into. The guy took off but there was a state cop at a gas station at the intersection who saw the accident. He came to see how I was. I told him I was fine and told him to go get the guy who caused this. He said he had to be sure I was ok and I never did find out who did that dirty deed. Dislocated thumb, torn seat (on the bike), broken turn signals and scuffed up pipes. Beat the hell out of just mashing the rear brake, sliding under the truck and getting squished. Aside from not being there, I really could see no way to avoid that one.
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Old 12-24-2006, 11:21 AM   #54
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Default New Data from Instructor Seruzawa's Cruiser School

Hey ksquid, I saw your irreverent reference to instructor Seruzawa, and thought that you were due for excellent braking facts & data.



This month’s issue of Motorcycle Consumer News published a ten-best list (ten best ¼ mile times, rear-wheel hp, top speeds, etc.). Here are their ten best 60-0 stops, in order, from shortest to longest:



1. 2002 Triumph Speed Triple (104.8Â’)

2. 1999 Triumph Speed Triple (106.7Â’)

3. 1997 F6 Valkyrie (107.4Â’)

4. 1997 Suzuki Marauder 800 107.6Â’)

5. 1998 Honda VFR800FI Interceptor (107.9Â’)

6. 1997 Yamaha YZF600R (108.2Â’)

7. 1999 Suzuki SV650 (108.8Â’)

8. 1999 Ducati 750 Monster (109.1Â’)

9. 1997 Suzuki TL 1000S (109.4Â’)

10. 2002 Harley-Davidson VRSC C-Rod (109.5Â’)



Alright, lets add ‘em up



Four standards/nekkids

Three cruisers (Includes the Valk)

Three sportbikes (Includes the VFR)

No Ninjas



Also, half of these top 10 were hopelessly antiquated V-twins.



Now, leaving the "top ten" and digging into the model-by-model listings, where do we find the 600 cc NinjaÂ’s? Â’01 ZX6R 114.9Â’. 05 ZX6R 118.9Â’ HA! Seven to ten feet longer than a Marauder!



(And, incidentally, two to six feet longer than my hopelessly outdated V-twin SuperHawk at 112.7Â’)



Now, if braking distance is a safety factor, you clearly would be much safer on a V-twin Marauder than on an I-4 Ninja death machine. Since you are a slave to facts/data, may we assume that you will be trading your Ninja in for Marauder as soon as you can?



Happy cruising!

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Old 12-24-2006, 11:26 AM   #55
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Motorcycle Consumer News the Faux News of the motorcycle world..
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Old 12-24-2006, 11:55 AM   #56
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At least they are not on the payola system!

They tell it as it is.
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Old 12-24-2006, 12:31 PM   #57
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I had the M.A.P. rotor, either way dont ride a klr on the street with stock brakes
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Old 12-24-2006, 01:03 PM   #58
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Default Re: New Data from Instructor Seruzawa's Cruiser School

Don't waste your keystrokes. Any facts that don't fit the predetermined outcome automatically become "false".



An interesting way to go through life, wot?
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Old 12-24-2006, 02:19 PM   #59
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Default Sorry but something smells but lets have another contest.

Was Fred Rau the test rider..Seriously ask Mat Mladin what bike he would rather be on if he had to stop from 60 mph.. Obviously, cruisers are more familiar to the GPTB like MCN staff. Oh seruzawa! You bring any cruiser to the big Race this summer and I will stop shorter than you with my Ninja..
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Old 12-25-2006, 03:39 AM   #60
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Default Re: New Data from Instructor Seruzawa's Cruiser School

Good move, man. Slam the source and not the facts/data. Do not think about the data before discrediting the source. Do not consider that fact that the rearward weight bias makes a cruiserÂ’s rear brake more effective than a sportbikeÂ’s nearly airborne rear brake under conditions of maximum braking effort from the relatively low speed of 60 mph.



Please continue NOT to think about things before you respond. We need the laughs.
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