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Old 11-06-2006, 02:26 PM   #31
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Default Re: Valkyrie 1800! Who Wants One?

Valks are pretty common in Europe considering the size and cost (they are called "F6C" because of that Hitler thing). Building a V-2 is so much cheaper so why bother if you can get away with it?



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Old 11-06-2006, 02:29 PM   #32
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Default Someone clone Soichiro!

Soichiro still believed in the V-4 when everyone else didn't. If racing is any indication of the future, check out Ducati's MGP bike, and Honda's for 07.



I believe it is as I see it as a V-twin (like my hawk gt) with some power at the top. I'm keeping my eye out for an RVF 400 for sale. If not, I might try to get someone to let me ride their VFR 800 around so I can get a first-hand opinion.

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Old 11-06-2006, 02:30 PM   #33
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Default Re: VTX is a pig!

At least you can run it hard. My fat boy gets 7.4 litres/100km but then it has 64 hp. That sucks.



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Old 11-06-2006, 02:48 PM   #34
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Default Re: Valkyrie 1800! Who Wants One?

There is one reason why Honda wouldn´t: it is cheaper to build in-line 3 than boxer 6. There would be 2 bigger engined cruisers above the new Valk and both would completely and utterly trash it in the cost department.



Would the market be big enough for a boxer six cruiser getting very close to 20k? I hope yes but plan to buy an used Valk



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Old 11-06-2006, 02:58 PM   #35
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Default Re: How about a street fighter.

most of those street fighters were ugly...

If anything takes out cruisers it'll be the drag bikes...
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Old 11-06-2006, 03:02 PM   #36
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Default Re: How about a street fighter.

most of those street fighters were ugly...

If anything takes out cruisers it'll be the drag bikes...
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Old 11-06-2006, 03:05 PM   #37
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Default Re: How about a street fighter.

most of those street fighters were ugly...

If anything takes out cruisers it'll be the drag bikes...
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Old 11-06-2006, 03:49 PM   #38
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Default Re: Valkyrie 1800! Who Wants One?

I say yes, but with much more power. If Honda were to introduce a Valkyrie with Rocket III + power, it would sell.



Another point. The VTX, although styled nicely enough for a cruiser, does not hold a candle to the Yamaha's or the Suzuki M109 in the performance areas. They will never steal much market from HD due to product loyalty.



Different is good when other features come as a bonus.



A 150lb/ft 130+ hp Valkyrie would be all the rage in the cruiser market. It worked for Triumph and it would work for Honda.
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Old 11-06-2006, 03:53 PM   #39
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Default Re: Valkyrie 1800! Who Wants One?

I say yes, but with much more power. If Honda were to introduce a Valkyrie with Rocket III + power, it would sell.



Another point. The VTX, although styled nicely enough for a cruiser, does not hold a candle to the Yamaha's or the Suzuki M109 in the performance areas. They will never steal much market from HD due to product loyalty.



Different is good when other features come as a bonus.



A 150lb/ft 130+ hp Valkyrie would be all the rage in the cruiser market. It worked for Triumph and it would work for Honda.
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Old 11-06-2006, 04:54 PM   #40
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Default Re: Valkyrie 1800! Who Wants One?

I agree. My first bikes, starting 34 years ago were Hondas. Most of my automobiles since 1984 have been Hondas. I used to lust after the original Valkyrie, among others. I have tremendous respect for Honda's engineering, but I can't think of a single bike in the current Honda line that moves me enough to bother visiting a dealer in person. If you look at what the other manufacturerers are offering you can see that we are experiencing a golden age in motorcycling, but Honda is largely missing it through their lack of vision. Pity.
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