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Old 10-17-2006, 02:06 PM   #11
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It gets a little colder here in Colorado. 4 hours with a battery you could hold in your hand easily makes me shiver a bit thinking about it. I won't take the time to read how many watts, especially since I like heated gloves as well.



And an extra fused outlet for the next bike is cheap.



For those who think that 45F is frigid - I'd suspect that anyone living in Oz falls into that category - or for a clammy morning in Texas it might work. Not for the rest of us..



My Widder is getting kind of old - I'm thinking about a Gerbling. Though to give them credit, Widder replaced my heated gloves when one of them opened up, no charge.
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Old 10-17-2006, 06:37 PM   #12
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Well, since this is turning into one of the rare (GASP!) "On Topic" threads , - what do all of you year 'round riders wear in the cold?



"Wet" is another topic, for another time.



I've got for my own personal defense:



>Three different weights of long underwear - varies depending on ambient temperature.



>An old Eclipse 'lectric vest, unknown wattage, unknown age (got it 2nd-hand). Worn over work clothes



This vest uses the SAE-type connectors. It came with a coiled cord and a crappy inline "lamp-cord" style switch. My major problem with the vest has been the cord flexibility - I move around so much, the copper wires in the switch terminals keep breaking. Any suggestions for an inexpensive (but not cheap!) replacement? I mean, fer crissakes - it's just a Four-Asterisk'n switch - why in the Four-Asterisk does everybodies switches cost $150 and up?



>Joe Rocket Ballistic jacket - gimme from a friend who didn't like it.



I didn't think I would either, but it fits me surprisingly well. It feels "secure", keeps wind out, and is advertised as "waterproof". I have to say; it is - for at least a moderate rain, ~1hr or so (haven't "tested" longer). So far, it's reasonably warm down to about ~40deg F with the liner, and without the 'lectrics - haven't tested it colder yet.



>MotoGP Jacket armoured jacket (can't 'member the model - it's the OD Green one with the retro-reflectives)



Got a deal on it for No-name-brand snowmobile/ski gloves - work passably well, down to ~25deg F.



>"****ies" brand insulated coveralls. I've been considering getting a set of insulated "bib overalls" to replace these - less bulk under the armoured jackets. And, with my 'lectric vest, somewhat redundant.



As my overcoat, I used to use an old Navy-issued Arctic jacket - it was my Dad's when he was sent on an Icebreaker in the '60s in an attempt to circumnavigate North America. Since he's gone now, I decided to retire it to occasional non-moto duty (some of you old-timer Navy guys might recognize it - the one with the "Life Preserver" foam liner). Replacing this was actually why I bought the MotoGP jacket.



>Dual-temp grip heaters



I haven't actually installed these yet, several reasons. One pretty good reason - WHY doesn't anybody carry some frakkin' stock-style handgrips? I mean, you can find frakkin' fuschia pink ones in every dealership in the nation - but NOTHING that looks like, fits like, or works as well as the stock grips (for a reasonable price! $35 for a set of stock grips is NOT reasonable!)



The closest I've come is these silicone Pro-grips. Grippy, squishy, fairly easy to install. But they don't look quite like the Yamaha stockers.



I've also been considering a set of "bark busters", but nobody seems interested in making a set for my commuter (FZ6). I've looked into adapting a set of the ones Suzuki uses on the WeeStrom/VeeThurmond twins, but the local dealer I tried to discuss it with hires Idiots. I believe they still think that I'm trying to trade my FZ6 for a DL650. I never DID even get a price on the parts.............



I have poor circulation in my hands, and a mild case of tendonitis - keeping them warm goes a LONG way toward maintaining feeling in my hands during the ~50-min/35mile commute. (one way - you gotta slow down for those small towns, or Deputy Fife will add your revenues to his own)
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Old 10-17-2006, 06:48 PM   #13
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Old 10-17-2006, 06:51 PM   #14
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Having encountered ice once many years ago I now only ride when it's above freezing. My JR Ballisitic with a light jacket and thick sweater underneath works well. First Gear lined pants. Lined leather boots. And snowmobile gloves. All this works well for the 40 mile (each way) commute along I-15. I also run a plexifairing on my G which does a good job of keeping the wind off.



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Old 10-17-2006, 09:07 PM   #15
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I'm confused and a little scared of this jacket.



read their terms page: http://www.jett.us.com/terms.htm



I quote:

"(1)Never use this produce when riding a horse or at any other time when undertaking any activity that requires your energy or attention.



(2)Never cover yourself, or the product, with a blanket or with any other material while using the product.



(3)Never use the product for more than 45 minutes.



(4)Never leave this product in use or turned ON while unattended. "

and

"(5)Jett Australia and its Associates recommend that persons seek medical advice prior to using this product.



(6)Hand wash or dry clean only.



(7)The lifetime of the product when used properly is 12 months and it should not be used after this time has expired."



ok i guess not being able to throw it in the washer is ok.



but...

(1) like maybe riding a motorcycle?

(2) like under a jacket? its a vest... vests go under a jacket

(3) so as long as the cold only effects you in 45 minute increments its ok.

(4) sounds fishy to me

(5) as in check with a psychiatrist cause after reading the disclaimers who in their right mind would buy this? am i reading this one correct?

(7) the damn thing decays?



now take (7) with an explanation of the technology used in the vest http://www.jett.us.com/health_2.htm#1

So you are microwaving your body (oh ok according to them it only goes 1 inch into your body) with something that they can only provide references to a 1981 and 1989 study to prove its safe.

And this vest that nukes your body becomes unstable for use after 1 year?



i think they are correct with (5), in asking you to check in with a doctor (read as psychiatrist).



I'd feel safer running exposed copper around my body and letting the electric shock stimulate my muscles and indirectly warm me, the same way shivering works. But this way i can electrocute.. i mean warm... myself for years on end, not just 12 months. and i saved myself a psychiatirst visit.
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Old 10-17-2006, 11:21 PM   #16
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vests? real men dont wear vests..when it gets cold switch from sleve-less t shirt and shades to long sleved tshirt and shades..
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Old 10-18-2006, 02:44 AM   #17
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I ride down to 32 wearing a sweater and my JR Ballistic 3/4 Jacket and pants with long johns my commute is anywhere from 30 to 50 miles depending on how much I play around on the way home.
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Old 10-18-2006, 05:37 AM   #18
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This is written by a lawyer, with instrcutions from the company management "write a disclaimer that under any circumstances nobody can sue our asses off".



Downside of the litigation laws is that you can´t take any warnings seriously.



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Old 10-18-2006, 07:43 AM   #19
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My favorite is the "Not for human consumption" warning on paint cans. As if someone stupid enough to drink paint can read.



They had to lock up all the denatured alcohol we used at work years ago after some dimbulb janitor drank some and expired. The containers all were clearly labelled "DANGER - POISON: DO NOT CONSUME".
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Old 10-18-2006, 07:49 AM   #20
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Whoops, wrong thread.
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