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Buzglyd 09-25-2006 11:14 AM

Re: Need?
People like family dad frighten me more than terrorists.

ksquid 09-25-2006 11:15 AM

Re: Common Sense Motorbiking. Where Is It?
Sorry.. Must be longride then . cause serazero has a Subaru..

christian_gates 09-25-2006 11:16 AM

Re: Common Sense Motorbiking. Where Is It?
BMW R1200RT. Short wheel base, 100HP, light-ish weight, good torque and good gas mileage. BMW gew-gaws like ABS and traction control. Low maintenance. It's about as common-sense as you can get. They're sweet rides, dude.

Oh yeah - and 150HP does improve your morning commute. Big time. Capital B.


Gritboy 09-25-2006 11:20 AM

Re: Common Sense Motorbiking. Where Is It?
Sadly, standard bikes are apparently more appealing in markets where motos are considered practical transportation on a daily basis, instead of weekend recreation vehicles. So, anywhere scooters are big standard bikes a big as well. Here in the States standards don't sell well because bigger is always promoted as better (false as that sometimes is). We all know there are great big bikes and small bikes, but American's seem to dwell on HP. Anyone who's ridden an RD400, SRX600, GS550, etc. knows you can have a ball on a small bike, and often the less HP you have the more you have to work the bike, which in turns is more fun to me. It's easy to drive a fast on fast vehicle over-engineered for the street (since it was intended for the track), and a much more exciting challenge to get up to speed on a smaller motor.

Case in point: my former literbike was too much fun and far too easy to launch the front on, or lose traction mid-corner due to sheer HP, so I moved back down the foodchain and got a 650 V-Strom to gain back some control. The WeeStrom is only marginally less fun, and substantially more controllable to ride -- takes me to 125 without blinking and tracks and handles nearly as well as my old sportbike -- and besides the cheaper insurance, I can hit the trails too.

Neal 09-25-2006 11:20 AM

You figured it out yourself...that was one of many fallacies....and the trucking industry is not the oil industry so its incorrect to add these subsidys to the cost of gas. But you agree with my basic point....take it with a grain of salt(like so many "expert " studies ).

seruzawa 09-25-2006 11:23 AM

Re: Common Sense Motorbiking. Where Is It?
Did you make any sense of that at all?

Gritboy 09-25-2006 11:27 AM

Re: WeeStrom 650 is EXACTLY That bike...
Picked up my '04 DL650 Strom used for $5000, with only 750 miles on it, in the States. Dropped another grand on extras -- including good rubber (the stock tires bite) -- and it's goes anywhere fast and comfortably ta boot.

alexdz 09-25-2006 11:54 AM

Re: Common Sense Motorbiking. Where Is It?
Whoa! I personally don't have any use for over-powered beasts, but I don't care if other people want them. I like to be able to use ALL of what I buy, and I figure something like the new F800ST will probably fit that bill for me.

The point of this response, however, has to do with the "Stain-resistant Dockers." I have some of those, is there really a connection to my preferred bike type??? I hate being obvious!!!!

sfcdjevans 09-25-2006 11:56 AM

Re: Buell XB12S
Can you hang bags on that?

ymsamhi 09-25-2006 12:02 PM

Re: Common Sense Motorbiking. Where Is It?
Not trying to pick on any one group, but if you think practicality or common sense includes a $12000.00+ price tag then you missed the point long ago. I have a powerbronze voyager equipped nighthawk 750 that I paid a total of 3800 for. I commute from Albuquerque to Santa Fe (128 miles rt) 2-3 times a week on it. Most people that I work with think that I need a bigger bike and its because they have been sold on the idea that a "real" road bike is above a liter. What happend to the concept of Lighter is Faster, I dont want more power, I want less bulk.

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