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Old 09-21-2006, 02:41 PM   #21
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Gee. Maybe the fact that they mentioned him being a Honda dealer at the bottom of the article might have helped, also.....
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Old 09-21-2006, 03:04 PM   #22
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I wholeheartedly agree on the graduated licensing idea that parts of Europe have adopted, which is why they also have cooler small bikes to choose from. Unfortunately, small bikes in the good ol USA equals femininity in our self-conscious society where image is more important than common sense.



I believe it is up to us, the motorcycling community to call on our political leaders to enact any kind of legislation for a said system but, as I've mentioned before, our ego and insecurity don't allow us to do so. That's like asking for a lower legal blood alcohol limit for drunk driving. No one will speak up until deaths start to rise to unacceptable limits. People who know nothing about motorcycles will call for an outright ban on these bikes, motorcyclists will take up arms in opposition, and there will be a compromise--instant graduated licensing system.



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Old 09-21-2006, 03:29 PM   #23
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This is exactly what I was thinking. I like Mike Seate and have read a lot of his motojournalist stuff, but I think he missed the ball a little here.



I totally agree with the sentiment of the piece, but he should have mentioned that the bike, from everything we know, really had nothing to do with Big Ben's accident. In fact, had Ben been licensed and wearing gear, you couldn't really knock him at all. I think Mike may have unintentionally helped to reinforce a growing urban myth.
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Old 09-21-2006, 04:08 PM   #24
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I'm glad that anyone can buy a Hayabusa, turbo'd and otherwise. If you want to be protected from yourself, go get committed. Leave the rest of us alone.



I have friends that get kicks driving their Ferraris, Lambos, and Vipers, but quite frankly, those cars are for pantywaists. They couldn't drive those cars at the limit on a skid pad. It's pathetic.



One ride on my Rex, sticking it into a corner with the power dialed on and the front end wagging over the bumps, and they'd go crying back to mama.



It's exactly this type of limp-wristed sissyboy that wants to make turbo busas and ZX-14s illegal. They want to protect their right to drive a Ford Exploder, regardless of how incompetent they are, and how much of a danger they are to others on the road, but they want to protect me from myself by limiting motorcycles.



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Old 09-22-2006, 05:14 AM   #25
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That I'll do. Always lookin' for a new-to-me scribe with something worthwhile to say.



You know, there was a time when the better dealers would at least attempt to advise the young. Yet another good thing lost....
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Old 09-22-2006, 06:45 AM   #26
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This is the best thing to come out of the BR brouhaha - taking squids to the track. I wonder how many of them will make the first turn?

And with all the time I spend at the dealers, how come I never get to see that guy who just bought his new bike careening into a parked car? Some guys have all the luck...
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Old 09-22-2006, 02:40 PM   #27
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Yes you could - at 35mph, a bike can stop right feckin' NOW. He was obviously not watching traffic, covering his brake, or anticipating the possibility that some lil' ole' lady in a Chrysler would pull a left-hander *right* in front of him.



He smacked the feckin' DOOR on the car - if he was *only* doin' 35, and she "didn't see him" and pulled across like grannies usually do - slow as dirt - then he had *PLENTY* of time to Not Make the News(TM). I've pulled it out of my arse once or twice myself, at higher than 35mph to boot. And *I* am not a highly-skilled, highly-trained "Athlete" the likes of Big Ben or Mike Tyson (wefwexes wike a cat! fwoat wike a butafwy, shting wike a bee.........).

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Old 09-22-2006, 02:40 PM   #28
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(but I *DO* have an athlete's foot!)
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Old 09-22-2006, 02:44 PM   #29
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I'd almost argue that if he was on a little 250 bike he might have actualy been more injured, smaller lighter bike, going to absorb less engery. maybe? heh
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Old 09-22-2006, 02:49 PM   #30
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Mike is also a regular contributor to Soupa' Squidbike Magazine (Super Streetbike)



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It is actually a pretty good magazine - if you're interested in keeping your finger on the pulse of the "cutting edge" of sportbikes, this is your rag.
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