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Old 09-01-2006, 09:23 AM   #31
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Default If you want the FACTS...

If you're interested in learning the *facts* about greater incidence of accidents and fatalities, go to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration site -- http://www.nhtsa.gov/ -- and search under "motorcycle."



There is a study from earlier this year showing that fatal accident rates per miles driven are going up, meaning that it is not simply more bikes on the road = more accidents. Things are getting worse. Cars are certainly to blame, but the greater incidence of accidents correlates closely with riders over 40, higher horsepower, and, of course, alcohol.



There are also one or two scary focus group studies taken regarding motorcyclists and alcohol. While many of us have probably used questionable judgment getting home once or twice, some of the opinions expressed are, frankly, frightening and insane.



Also, before the next "helmet thread" flame war, check out the studies done on the effect of the repeal of the helmet law in Kty. and Louisiana. There is also a report on the social cost of motorcycle accidents. The upshort -- those who ride without helmets are (a) more likley not to have insurance, and (b) more likely to drink and ride.



Of course, these studies are presented by the *government*, and no doubt put forward by those who want nothing more than to rob us of our freedom -- either the corrupt and incompetent Bush appointees, or the incompetent, tax-and-spend, sex-crazed Clintonites -- so feel free to totally ignore this information and maintain whatever opinion suits you best.
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:40 AM   #32
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Default Re: Wake up and smell the coffee

Sure KP. As much as you are a Lexus driver.
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:42 AM   #33
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I wouldn't know. I have never lived a red state
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:43 AM   #34
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Default BTW A$$wipe, the incorrect spelling was copied from your post.

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Old 09-01-2006, 09:47 AM   #35
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Default Since the NHTSA does not record mileage ridden by motorcyclists,

do you mind explaining how the conclusion that fatal accident rates per miles driven are going up is arrived at? I would love to know ...
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:48 AM   #36
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right JB
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:49 AM   #37
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read my post JB
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:49 AM   #38
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"This" flame war calls for a box of anything.
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:53 AM   #39
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To many spelling errors ...
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:06 AM   #40
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Default Thank Goodnes for the Feds

Thank you, Kpaul, for linking to that webBikeWorld article about NHTSA. The very first paragraph is most instructive:



The mission of the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) is straightforward: "Save lives, prevent injuries, reduce vehicle-related crashes."



Obviously, someone of your intellectual capability is aware that the best way to "save lives, prevent injuries, reduce vehicle-related crashes" among motorcyclists is to eliminate motorcycles. Motorcycles serve society in no useful manner and no amount of engineering, protective gear, or rider training will ever make a motorcycle as "safe" as a Kia Rio (which also gets better gas mileage than my SuperHawk).



Guess what – the people at NHTSA (affectionately known as "Nasties") have figured this out too. A motorcycle ban will be the Nasties first step toward their Utopia of completely socialized mass-transportation.



It is important to remember that the Nasties are a part of our federal government, so we can be sure that they would never fabricate "facts," or monkey with statistics, or even use valid statistics for nefarious purposes. The Nasties are one of many trustworthy federal agencies that are doing everything they can to protect us Americans from our stupid selves.



Thank God and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration! And thank you, Kpaul, for directing our attention to another trustworthy agency of our benevolent federal government.

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