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Old 06-23-2006, 12:12 PM   #41
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bigdx (I_Ride@Yo_Mama.org)..hmm infantile...anyhow ya sorry i got carried away ...bored in work..



i enjoy your bear prodding as it happens ...you are like the guys they bring onto talk radio to say something controversial or just plain dumb and fire up all the listeners

i sometimes get sucked in myself but hey there you go

i am assuming you say the stuff just for a reaction though...i mean you dont actually believe this stuff do you?



anyhow keep up the good work ..
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Old 06-23-2006, 12:58 PM   #42
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No need to apologize, but bear prodding solicits abuse at times.



Do I believe what stuff? If you are referring to the squidÂ’s web page, my thoughts on the matter is that he knows a lot less than he thinks he does, which is not a crime and to some extent we all fall into that category.



His advice does however encourage behavior that can lead to serious injury or death. I have somewhat of an issue with that. The rest is just harmless "bear prodding" to coin a phrase.

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Old 06-23-2006, 02:13 PM   #43
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I can't believe you're admitting to being a ricer here. It's going to be confusing trading insults with you now, or maybe that's just the blood dripping into my eyes.



Just because you don't have advice about stoppies and wheelies I'm sure doesn't mean you're not an expert.



You gonna send instructions to Hayden or what?
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Old 06-23-2006, 02:50 PM   #44
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I am not saying the rear brake is adequate for day to day driving. I'm just saying it is an important part of the whole braking system. In general riding, such as commuting, I use both brakes with the majority of the braking coming from the front brake and a minority coming from the rear. The rear brake also has specific uses in certain situations where the front brake would be upsetting. If I did use only the back brake for "sedate riding" I'd be replacing the rear brake pads every few weeks! Switching from linked to non linked bike a couple times a week does require some mental adjustment.



For fun some day, listen to a bunch of German riders argue about if it is better to apply the front or rear brake first. Rear brake first arguement says applying the rear first settles the suspension and gently compresses the front without the dramatic dive that can result from over-rapid application of the front first. Front first arguement says a measured, progressive squeeze of the front brake takes care of the abrupt dive problem. A third group just rides BMW's with linked, ABS, servo brakes and does whatever they please because the bike is going to stop how the BMW engineers want it to stop regardless of what the rider does. (unless the servo fails) [the third is an unfair generalization because I've never ridden a modern BMW] All of them use front and rear in proporation varying according to the situation.



BTW bigdx, do you ever hang out with a guy who calls himself "The Highwayman?"
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Old 06-23-2006, 04:06 PM   #45
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I read an article by Simon Crafar some time back where he went into some detail on how to use back brake during racing. He was very much into the idea of hitting the back brake first to settle the bike and that is what prompted to start using a thumb brake.



I always use both as the bikes I ride will slow down fastest using both, so it is good to get into the habit of using both. Obviously not to the point where either wheel loses traction. I have not had to replace rear pads more frequently than front.



I like the idea of smart electronics controlling traction under acceleration and braking. I am way past the stage where the thought of being "in control" excites me. I want to ride and enjoy the country side without having to worry too much about over braking/losing traction etc.



I have no idea who the Highwayman is, although I think somebody eluded that I am him. In some circles I am kp, but I know neither.

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Old 06-23-2006, 04:08 PM   #46
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How's the gash in the forehead pookie?

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Old 06-23-2006, 04:39 PM   #47
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There is one "tip" that I've also heard at MSF and Keith Code schools which I think is at least misleading. It's to squeeze the brakes on smoothly in an emergency stop. To get the shortest stopping distance the deceleration needs to be maximum immediately. I'm afraid that to many people, particularly the inexperienced, on reading that they should squeeze smoothly will take another few tenths of a second to get to max brakes and those few tenths will be while they are the highest speed. The point to practicing is to be able to go to max brakes instantly. I practice on the street every week. If you go a little too hard the front may slide, but you just left off and you won't go down. Of course this is bad for stopping distance - but it means you can practice finding where that limit is so you can go up to it, but not over when the occasion demands it.
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