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Old 06-23-2006, 05:47 AM   #11
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Boy, the power rangers are out in force today ...



"During hard braking in a straight line the rear wheel has so little weight on it, the rear brake is useless."



Really? Even when wet or with oil/gravel/sand on the road surface? Oh yeah, the xbox has only perfect condition road similation
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Old 06-23-2006, 05:50 AM   #12
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Unless you are on an ST1300 with a passenger or a Gold Wing or K1200LT. In those instances you'd better learn to use your back brake.



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Old 06-23-2006, 05:56 AM   #13
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As stated, the back brake is more effective on cruiser-type bikes. Even on bikes like the V-Rod and Electra-Glide, the back brake is very effective. On my Busa, I don't think I even touched the rear brake twice. I did make the mistake of grabbing only the front brake on my GoldWing trying to stop from high speed. It was one of those 'Oh shyt' moments that wasn't repeated. On a Wing you are better off slamming th rear brake hard and then applying the front. Goes against the natural way of braking for sure. I hate linked brakes.
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Old 06-23-2006, 05:56 AM   #14
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Great page for those learning to ride - read then experiment.
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Old 06-23-2006, 06:06 AM   #15
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I am sure your limited experience; somebody with 10 year of experience does seem like an expert. I will not begrudge you that Â…



The articles are quite funny to read though. He is a "sportbike" rider, sport bikes being a GS500, an 1100 bandit and a Goldwing. Mmm, plenty sporty bike eh?



And of course the "use front brake only" on a bike like a Wing makes real sense?



And of course gems like "I have a Bandit 1200 so of course I've dabbled with drag racing!". Wow yeah, a Bandit 1200 just brings out the racer in everyone? (Fortunately he has the sense to publish statement from somebody that actually races)



But you are quite correct that the "Metacognition failures in the unskilled" post does steal the show. After ten years on a GS500, Bandit and wing I think Rossi and Hayden will be banging this clowns door down for tips. I do not think I am worthy even to read his article Â… maybe after another 30 years maybe?

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Old 06-23-2006, 06:34 AM   #16
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do you think your rear wheel is somehow immune to oil/gravel/sand ? any braking on a sportsbike or standard tends to throw the weight of the bike onto the front wheel, due to the balanced nature of the weight distribution on the bike....having less weight on the rear would make it a lot easier to lock up the rear wheel especially on a low grip surface ..this is exactly what the writer said, he mentioned how the weight bias is different on cruisers where the rear brake is much more effective ....

and good luck to any man doing braking on oil
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Old 06-23-2006, 06:36 AM   #17
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Quote from the How to Wheelie section: "Staying up (theoretical only since I'm not dumb enough to try it):"



My question: Why is the guy giving advice on how to do a maneuver he's "not dumb enough to try?"



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Old 06-23-2006, 06:37 AM   #18
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Love the section where he invalidates his own page:



"Because competent and safe motorcycling is a knowledge based skill, this helps explain typical phenomena such as:



* newbies eagerly soaking up contradictory and boneheaded advice.

* the least competent often out in front "leading the pack"

* self taught "old hands" passing on well meaning but questionable advice"
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Old 06-23-2006, 06:43 AM   #19
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Exactly what the writer says is the following "Forget about using both brakes. Too much to coordinate ". Your argument will be better grounded if you actually read his article.



"do you think your rear wheel is somehow immune to oil/gravel/sand"



Not sure what part of my comments would make anybody with a reasonable level of comprehension think I said as much.



"any braking on a sportsbike or standard tends to throw the weight of the bike onto the front wheel"



Sure, but this clown doesnÂ’t ride sportbikes. His one bike especially (a goldwing) relies very much on rear brakes to come to full stop. Again, you should actually read the article

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Old 06-23-2006, 06:43 AM   #20
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I had to panic brake on the Duc and even with the girl on the back the rear wheel was still off the ground.



What happened to ol' Fast Eddie? He'd be telling us to "lay her down."
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