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Old 05-04-2006, 03:39 AM   #1
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Yay first post



Badge engineering is not unique to motorbikes - it's everywhere. The first one that comes to mind is the photographic industry - how many cheap crappy throwaway cameras nowadays have Carl Zeiss, Schneider and Leica names on their lense?
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Old 05-04-2006, 04:18 AM   #2
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Sorry, Mike, you got it wrong. Aermachhi won LOTS of races, including 250 world championships under the HD banner in 1974, 5, and 6! (Walter Villa was the rider). Aermachhi's racing success was one of the reasons that HD was attracted in the first place.



I guess that doesn't count though, cause it wasn't built on this side of the pond, eh?
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Old 05-04-2006, 05:00 AM   #3
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I was going to start on a rant about how if they wanted to be innovative, Indian should build a world class sport/naked bike....but that will never happen!
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Old 05-04-2006, 05:16 AM   #4
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Dang: pplassm beat me to it. Good catch, P...



nomad outta do some fact checking re racing heritage....





"The Great Depression all but destroyed the American motorcycle industry." This has been addressed more than a few times. Actually rising income, falling auto prices (in real dollars) and improving roads during the decade of the 1920's had as much if not more to do with the loss of American mc mfgs than the depression. The great financial deflation (government caused by the way) was the last straw, not the whole load of straw.



Nice try. Next time call Steve Roper and do some fact checking.



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Old 05-04-2006, 05:19 AM   #5
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What could a "New" Indian Motocycle company build. What engine config is left.



V-Twins- Moto Guzzi and Harley, Ducati, plus Metrics

Singles- All Thumpers and would there be a market

Parallel Twins- Copy of Triumph, New little Ninja

Opposed twins- BMW's

V-3's- That could be new, has there been a V-3

I-3's- Triumph

I- 4's- Japanese and Euro bikes

V-4's- Honda Interceptors, ST1300's, V-Max

4-5's- Honda GP bikes

Straight 3's or 4's-ala old Indians and Rocket 3

Straight 6- CBX and maybe new Stratosphere

V-6 ?

V-8- Morbidelli (sp) Boss Hoss



It seems whatever they do they'll be a copy of someone. So what was there original strength. When I think of Indian I see the Indian 4. Maybe a John Bloor type that could bankroll this, but I would be hard pressed to invest anything much less actually buy a bike.



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Old 05-04-2006, 05:25 AM   #6
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They could actually design their OWN V-twin instead of building a copy of the Harley Evo.
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Old 05-04-2006, 05:27 AM   #7
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Not only was the Aermacchi not built on this side of the pond, it wasn't designed or built by Harley-Davidson.
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Old 05-04-2006, 05:58 AM   #8
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Maybe because they want to build something that will sell.
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Old 05-04-2006, 06:00 AM   #9
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Let's just hope we don't see the Indian name revived again. If I hear one more clone manufacturer talking about their "proprietary motor" I'm gonna puke. An Evo clone is an Evo clone is an Evo clone.



Oh, and I wear a 1958 Rolex that was my grandfather's. He says he wants it back.
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Old 05-04-2006, 06:35 AM   #10
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...and Rolex could start building clock-radios.
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