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Old 05-04-2006, 05:35 AM   #11
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Indian Motorcycle powered by a kinetically powered Rolex watch. As you jiggle down the road you build up more miles. Indian could claim to be America's second favorite pass time.
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Old 05-04-2006, 05:42 AM   #12
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Quite true. Ford's assembly line system brought car prices down to parity with motorcycles. Motorcycle companies began failing well before the Great Depression.
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Old 05-04-2006, 05:55 AM   #13
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Due to the curved nature of the space-time continuum any motorcycle any imaginary future Indian company builds would be a unique event in history. Considering that the shortest estimate of the duration of the universe is 20 billion years (if we are in a Steady State universe the age could be trillions or any number) then any engine used by any new Indian startup will be an existentially unique event.



Even if it is another freakin' HD copy.



Or in simpler terms... in another million years, who's gonna care?
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Old 05-04-2006, 06:08 AM   #14
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"It would be different if the new owners of the Indian name genuinely started from scratch, building a state-of-the art machine that by virtue of its engineering, performance, or charisma provided the kind of magic that warms the hearts of motorcyclists. Then there would be at least a philosophical connection."



That would be nice, but it really isn't possible in todays world. If it were, would Kenny Dreer be bankrupt? Would Keny Roberts be racing with a Honda motor? The problem with a start from scratch design is that it costs MONEY, and lots of it. Money comes from selling things, not from promising great things. Its just the way things work.
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Old 05-04-2006, 06:38 AM   #15
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Damn right Sprint buyers weren't getting a real Harley, they got a real Aermacchi. As I recall, there was a buzz a few weeks back about counter rotating brake rotors and I believe that innovation was from Aermacchi. They company makes nice planes too. I have a '72 Sprint 350ss in the garage and I would rather have it than any other '72 Harley. That bike is built like a Rolex (except for that under water stuff), thank god and not like the Harleys of the day.
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Old 05-04-2006, 06:40 AM   #16
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As did the Mini in Britain in the '50s.
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Old 05-04-2006, 06:51 AM   #17
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Does this story have a point? Is there some news about Indian?



Well if not...Triumph is the oddball. No reason for them to have carried on after '83 - except an evolution of the TSS would have been worth a look. But, I guess a man with a lot of money and a builing manufacturing firm decided Britain could support home grown motorcycle manufacturing.



However..."It would have been easy to build a clone of a Japanese inline four"... that's exactly what they did for the TT600 and it's derivatives. Also, Bloor spent a significant amount of time in Japan in the '80s learning how to build a modern motorcycle manufacturing plant.
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Old 05-04-2006, 06:54 AM   #18
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One thing's for sure: Stellican Group didn't buy the name just to get rid of those pesky piles of accumulating cash. They bought it to revive it, or resell it to someone else.
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Old 05-04-2006, 07:21 AM   #19
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Back in the 60s and 70s that was probably a good thing. To bad the Italian makers had lousy quality control.
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Old 05-04-2006, 07:29 AM   #20
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I posted this in the wrong place it was ment to be a coment on the old Harley Davies old tech nonengineering. Too bad they didn't learn anything from the Italians about design and are still rehashing designs from there past. With maybe the exception of the V-Rod.
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