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emiles 03-22-2006 03:14 AM

Re: SunL ''Super Sport 200'' . . . Chinese Fun for $2k
 
Amazing this Chinese stuff .. any place on the web where I can find more info?

NLJ 03-22-2006 03:23 AM

Re: SunL ''Super Sport 200'' . . . Chinese Fun for $2k
 
I've read some people's gripes about these bikes on different bb's on the net. The reviews have been less than stellar. The chinese have a knack for slapping together parts that will run ok for 1-3k miles before starting to fall apart. For my $2000 i'd rather buy a older model used Kawasaki Ninja 250 or a Honda Nighthawk 250.

If this bike is like alot of other chinese imports two main issues come into play.

1. They usually claim that these bikes are based on Honda bikes and parts will interchange. Which from what i've read rarely works

2. If you live in a state that requires inspection or emission checks to register, these bikes haven't done well at all.



Someone wrote somewhere that they import these items as toys and not motor vehicles so they can avoid meeting emission standards.



Note this is what i've read and have not confirmed it for myself.

ncelik 03-22-2006 04:37 AM

Re: SunL ''Super Sport 200'' . . . Chinese Fun for $2k
 
This is exactly what I heard from people too. Worse even, some of these break within 50 miles, some last longer.



They all claim to be Honda based, or manufactured on old Honda factory equipment, but that's just BS. They are saying that because it helps you believe this is quality stuff. Same with the Korean/Alphasports/what-the-new-name 650 being an SV650 - *NOT* true.

bluemoco 03-22-2006 05:10 AM

Re: SunL ''Super Sport 200'' . . . Chinese Fun for $2k
 
Well, there is certainly some weaknesses with Chinese bikes, but I think you're painting with a pretty broad brush in reference to the Alphasports/Hyosung 650.



Hyosung is a Korean company that did a bit of sub-assembly work for Suzuki I believe. Including the manufacture of engines for Suzuki products sold in various Asian markets. That 650cc bike that they're selling in the States may not be on par with a Suzuki SV650 yet, but when they get the suspension sorted it will be a formidable competitor in the sport market.

ncelik 03-22-2006 05:23 AM

Re: SunL ''Super Sport 200'' . . . Chinese Fun for $2k
 
Sorry, I did not mean to bash the quality of Hyosung - only the Chinese ;-) . My comment about Hyosung was more towards the fact they they and the dealers always present this as a SV650-related bike with some sort of Suzuki blessing.



It has NOTHING to do with Suzuki, except that they took the SV650 and tried to copy it. I am sure that Suzuki is not very happy about this.



Also, FWIW, Hyosung is a giant company (mainly textiles if I remember correctly), and the motorcyle business is a branch of their "trading" division. It's a very, very minor part of their overall business. They could decide to expand it, drop it, or just import Chinese stuff. I hope they expand.

BrowningBAR 03-22-2006 05:31 AM

Re: SunL ''Super Sport 200'' . . . Chinese Fun for $2k
 
Cool! Ride the thing and get us a review, d@mnit! :)



Keep track of all of the positives and negatives over the next 3000 miles and let us know.


obandoj 03-22-2006 06:27 AM

Re: SunL ''Super Sport 200'' . . . Chinese Fun for $2k
 
Good luck getting parts and a shop that will work on it. And work it will need, I get them in my shop and sadly I have to tell the people who own them that they are on their own, because I can not help them . And when they go back to the place of purchase, usually Checker or Pep Boys, they waste their time.

I guess the Japanese started like that after WWII, but they have a great work ethic and have come a long way, the chinese better copy that, as well as the quality control side, otherwise they will implode in no time at all.

slackmeister 03-22-2006 06:31 AM

Re: SunL ''Super Sport 200'' . . . Chinese Fun for $2k
 
Some of the specs seem a little odd, but it does look better than a Ninja 250. Might be a copy of the Euro-market Honda CBR125 with a dirtbike motor.





http://www.sunl.com/product_info.php...0332a5a7b296d1

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Overall dimension(Inches):L80 X W30 X H44

Dry weight(Lbs):308

Max.load(Lbs):374

Ground clearance(Inches):6

Brake(Front/Rear):Disk(Front).Drum(Rear)

Brake operation type:Manual(Front).Foot brake(Rear)

Tire size(Front/Rear):Front:100/80-10 Rear:130/80-15

Seat height(Form ground to highest point)(Inches):34

Max speed(Mph):75

Wheelbase(Inches):52

Engine:163FML

Engine type:Single-cylinder.4-Stroke.wind-cooled

Bore&Storke(Inches):25 X 24

Rating Power:11.5kw/8500r/min+450r/min

Max.Horspower:12.5kw/8500r/min+475r/min

Max.Torque:11.5N.M/7000r/min+375r/min

Idle:1500r/min

Compression:9.0:1


mscuddy 03-22-2006 06:40 AM

Re: SunL ''Super Sport 200'' . . . Chinese Fun for $2k
 
Them commie devils make neat stuff. Hell, almost every tool that's not 10 years or older in my roll-a-way is made in China.



Not to mention my motorized bicycles (80cc Fuji motor copies).



Have fun with your new bike. I'm sure it'll be rock solid reliable.

Harry-VX800 03-22-2006 07:06 AM

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