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Old 03-22-2006, 06:19 AM   #21
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Default Re: The MO Gold Wing Car Tire Reader Challenge!

Why rent a track? All it would take is a parking lot and a few cones! I guess the embarassment would be more public on a track, though...
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Old 03-22-2006, 06:27 AM   #22
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Default Re: Run a Car Tire on Your Gold Wing!

Actually dragging pegs on a Valkyrie is not as easy as you might imagine. I ride a Valk Interstate and it has much better peg clearance than most of the cruisers I rode before it. I'm not a "racer" by any means, but ride pretty aggressively for a big bike, and tend to catch up and pass many riders when going through the twisties. On two week-long trips in the mountains of WV, NC, and TN (including the Dragon), I only dragged pegs once and that was in an avoidance maneuver on a right-handed, decreasing radius hairpin to avoid a pickup cutting the apex into my lane.
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Old 03-22-2006, 06:39 AM   #23
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Default Re: Run a Car Tire on Your Gold Wing!

Once again, Goldwing owners prove they should not have bikes in the first place. Reminds me of a letter sent to Cycle World, where a Goldwing rider argued that bald tyres were safer and better because they were exactly the same as racing slicks.
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Old 03-22-2006, 06:48 AM   #24
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Read the article under http://lifeisaroad.com/stories/2004/...eDarkSide.html



The guy seems to talk sense and has done the miles to back up what he says. I may just stick one onto the back of my Harley ...
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Old 03-22-2006, 07:20 AM   #25
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Default Re: Run a Car Tire on Your Gold Wing!

That's just mean.
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Old 03-22-2006, 07:24 AM   #26
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Default Re: Run a Whitewall Tire on Your Gold Wing!

Neat. Then you can get some of those stick-on whitewalls too. One for each side.



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Old 03-22-2006, 07:31 AM   #27
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Default Re: Run a Car Tire on Your Gold Wing!

Man, is this old news. This comes from the sidecar folks! We eat up rear tires faster than a sport bike rider on burn out night! Ever try to get a back tire off a sidecar rig? Requres a jack, and lots of other stuff to get it up high enough, then you eventually have to put it back on! There are conversions for Harley Wheels too as well as BMW. Strongly suggest against this for a two wheeler. Ask anyone who remembers the old Goodyear Speedgrip! Square profile tires (like car tires) make for interesting handling in corners....
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Old 03-22-2006, 07:57 AM   #28
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Default Re: get real ...

Do his miles override the knowledge and experience of motorcycle and tire designers?



Motorcycle handling is very susceptible to even minor changes in tire profile, tread, and compound. The guy from that web link above says that himself - he says that one of the problems with bike tires is that whenever he installed tires from a different brand, he would have to get used to dramatically different handling. So a slightly different tire has an unacceptably large difference in handling. But he puts a car tire on his bike and gets used to it in 1/4 mile? Anyone smell something weird here?



People who do this sort of crazy stuff seem to say that longer tire life is a big advantage of using car tires. Well, guess what? Car tires last longer because they use harder rubber and as a result have significantly less grip than motorcycle tires. With just 2 wheels keeping your butt off the asphalt, that doesn't seem like a smart tradeoff.
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Old 03-22-2006, 08:09 AM   #29
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Good article. Whether you like it or not, it definitely seems to work for this guy. Goes into quite a bit of detail to support his argument.
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Old 03-22-2006, 08:16 AM   #30
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all those guys with valks fitted with car tires are dragging their pipes. those car tires have a lower profile so that the undercarraige is lower to the ground. so they're throwing sparks at extremely low speeds and shallow lean angles.



big fun, eh?
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