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Old 01-06-2006, 11:05 AM   #31
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Joe Biden > August 4, 2002

"This is a guy who is an extreme danger to the world, and this is a guy who is in every way possible seeking weapons of mass destruction."



Al Gore > December 16, 1998

"[i]f you allow someone like Saddam Hussein to get nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, chemical weapons, biological weapons, how many people is he going to kill with such weapons? He has already demonstrated a willingness to use such weapons..."



John Kerry > January 23, 2003

"Without question we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator leading an impressive regime. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he's miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. His consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction."




Sandy Berger > February 18, 1998



"He'll use those weapons of mass destruction again as he has 10 times since 1983."





Senator Carl Levin > September 19, 2002



"We begin with a common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations, is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."





Senator Hillary Clinton > October 10, 2002



"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock. His missile delivery capability, his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists including Al-Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."





Madeleine Albright > November 10, 1999



"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."





Robert Byrd > October 3, 2002



"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of '98. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons."







Al Gore > September 23, 2002



"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter, and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."







Joe Biden > August 4, 2002

"I think he has anthrax. I have not seen any evidence that he has smallpox, but you hear them say, Tim (Russert), is the last smallpox outbreak in the world was in Iraq; ergo, he may have a strain."





Bill Clinton > December 17, 1998

"Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq.... Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors."







Hillary Clinton > October 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspections, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability and his nuclear program."





**** Gephardt > September 23, 2002

"(I have seen) a large body of intelligence information over a long time that he is working on and has weapons of mass destruction. Before 1991, he was close to a nuclear device. Now, you'll get a debate about whether it's one year away or five years away."





Russell Feingold > October 9, 2002

"With regard to Iraq, I agree Iraq presents a genuine threat, especially in the form of weapons of mass destruction: chemical, biological and potentially nuclear weapons. I agree that Saddam Hussein is exceptionally dangerous and brutal, if not uniquely so, as the president argues."







Johnny Edwards > January 7, 2003

"Serving on the intelligence committee and seeing day after day, week after week, briefings on Saddam's weapons of mass destruction and his plans on using those weapons, he cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons. It's just that simple. The whole world changes if Saddam ever has nuclear weapons."







John Kerry > January 31, 2003

"If you don't believe...Saddam Hussein

is a threat with nuclear weapons, then

you shouldn't vote for me."










Bill Nelson > September 14, 2002

"I believe he has chemical and biological weapons. I think he's trying to develop nuclear weapons, and the fact that he might use those is a considerable threat to us."







Al Gore > September 23, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."









Tom Daschle > October 6, 2002

"The (Clinton) administration has said, 'Look, we have exhausted virtually our diplomatic effort to get the Iraqis to comply with their own agreements and with international law. Given that, what other option is there but to force them to do so?' That's what they're saying. This is the key question. And the answer is we don't have another option. We have got to force them to comply, and we are doing so militarily."







Bill Richardson > May 29, 1998

"The threat of nuclear proliferation is one of the big challenges that we have now, especially by states that have nuclear weapons, outlaw states like Iraq."









Hillary Clinton > October 10, 2002

"It is clear, however, that if left unchecked Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."









Bill Clinton > February 17, 1998



"If Saddam rejects peace, and we have to use force, our purpose is clear: We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."







Madeleine Albright > February 1, 1998



"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and the security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."





Nancy Pelosi > December 16, 1998





"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology, which is a threat to countries in the region, and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."







Al Gore > September 23, 2002





"We know that he has stored nuclear supplies, secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."





John Kerry > October 9, 2002





"I will be voting to give the president of the US the authority to use force if necessary to disarm Saddam because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."







Ted Kennedy > September 27, 2002





"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."





Jay Rockefeller > October 10, 2002





"There was unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. We also should remember that we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."







Joe Biden > August 4, 2002





"[H]e does have the capacity, as all terrorist-related operations do, of smuggling stuff into the United States and doing something terrible. That is true. But there's been no connection, hard connection made yet between he and al-Qaida or his willingness or effort to do that thus far. Doesn't mean he won't. This is a bad guy."







Madeline Albright > February 18, 2002

Iraq is a long way from (here), but what happens there matters a great deal here, for the risk that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest national security threat we face -- and it is a threat against which we must and will stand firm."









Jane Harman > August 27, 2002

"I certainly think (Hussein's) developing nuclear capability which, fortunately, the Israelis set back 20 years ago with their preemptive attack which, in hindsight, looks pretty darn good."







**** Durbin > September 30, 1999

"One of the most compelling threats we in this country face today is the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. Threat assessments regularly warn us of the possibility that North Korea, Iran, Iraq, or some other nation may acquire or develop nuclear weapons."









Bill Nelson > August 25, 2002

"[M]y own personal view is, I think Saddam

has chemical and biological weapons,

and I expect that he is trying to develop

a nuclear weapon. So at some point,

we might have to act precipitously."







Nancy Pelosi > October 10, 2002

"Yes, he has chemical weapons. Yes, he has biological weapons. He is trying to get nuclear weapons."









Evan Bayh > August 4, 2002

"I'm inclined to support going in there and dealing with Saddam, but I think that case

needs to be made on a separate basis: his possession of biological and chemical weapons, his desire to get nuclear weapons, his proven track record of attacking his neighbors and others."







Bill Clinton > February 17, 1998

"We have to defend our future from these predators of the 21st Century.... They will be all the more lethal if we allow them to build arsenals of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them. We simply cannot allow that to happen. There is no more clear example of this threat than Saddam Hussein."









Hillary Clinton > January 22, 2003

"I voted for the Iraqi resolution. I consider the prospect of a nuclear-armed Saddam Hussein who can threaten not only his neighbors but the stability of the region and the world, a very serious threat to the United States."







Joe Biden > August 4, 2002

"We know he continues to attempt to gain access to additional capability, including nuclear capability."









Johnny Edwards > February 6, 2003

"The question is whether we're going to allow this man who's been developing weapons of mass destruction continue to develop weapons of mass destruction, get nuclear capability and get to the place where -- if we're going to stop him if he invades a country around him -- it'll cost millions of lives as opposed to thousands of lives."







Joe Biden > August 4, 2002

"First of all, we don't know exactly what he has. It's been five years since inspectors have been in there, number one. Number two, it is clear that he has residual of chemical weapons and biological weapons, number one."







Senator Bob Graham > December 8, 2002





"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has and has had for a number of years a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."







John Kerry > February 23, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has already used these weapons and has made it clear that he has the intent to continue to try, by virtue of his duplicity and secrecy, to continue to do so. That is a threat to the stability of the Middle East. It is a threat with respect to the potential of terrorist activities on a global basis. It is a threat even to regions near but not exactly in the Middle East."
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Old 01-06-2006, 12:20 PM   #32
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Default Re: Janklow to regain law license.

Clearly, DWI-cited folks will be flocking to JackOff for representation.
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Old 01-06-2006, 12:26 PM   #33
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HereÂ’s what Bush said:

Bush said

"Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent."



State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003



Reality

Iraq has 500 tons of chemical weapons:



- Sarin gas



- Mustard gas



- VX Nerve agent





Evidence says it's not true



Zero Chemical Weapons Found

Not a drop of any chemical weapons has been found anywhere in Iraq

Bush said

"U.S. intelligence indicates that Saddam Hussein

had upwards of 30,000 munitions capable

of delivering chemical agents."



State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003





Iraq has 30,000 weapons capable of dumping chemical weapons on people





Evidence says it's not true





Zero Munitions Found

Not a single chemical weaponÂ’s munition has been found anywhere in Iraq



Bush said

"We have also discovered through intelligence

that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas."



State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003





Iraq has a growing fleet of planes capable of dispersing chemical weapons almost anywhere in the world





Evidence says it's not true





Zero Aerial Vehicles Found

Not a single aerial vehicle capable of dispersing chemical or biological weapons, has been found anywhere in Iraq

Bush said

"Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications and statements by people

now in custody reveal that

Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of Al Qaida."



State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003





Iraq aids and protects terrorists, including members of Al Qaeda



And implied that Iraq was somehow behind 9/11





Evidence says it's not true





Zero Al Qaeda Connection



To date, not a shred of evidence connecting Hussein with Al Qaida or any other known terrorist organizations have been revealed.

(besides certain Palestinian groups who represent no direct threat to the US)

Bush said

"Our intelligence sources tell us that he (Saddam) has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production."



State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003





Iraq has attempted to purchase metal tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production





Evidence says it's not true



The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) as well as dozens of leading scientists declared said tubes unsuitable for nuclear weapons production -- months before the war.

Bush said

"Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at [past nuclear] sites."



Bush speech to the nation – 10/7/2002





Iraq is rebuilding nuclear facilities at former sites.





Evidence says it's not true



Two months of inspections at these former Iraqi nuclear sites found zero evidence of prohibited nuclear activities there



IAEA report to UN Security Council – 1/27/2003

Bush said

"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."



State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003





Iraq recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa





Not True



The documents implied were known at the time by Bush to be forged and not credible.

Cheney Said

"We know he's been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons, and we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons."



VP **** Cheney – "Meet the Press" 3/16/2003





Iraq has Nuclear Weapons for a fact





Evidence says it's not true





"The IAEA had found no evidence or plausible indication of the revival of a nuclear weapons program in Iraq."



IAEA report to UN Security Council – 3/7/2003

Bush said

"We gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn't let them in."



Bush Press Conference 7/14/2003





IraqÂ’s Saddam Hussein refused to allow UN inspectors into Iraq





Evidence says it's not true



UN inspectors went into Iraq to search for possible weapons violations from December 2002 into March 2003
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Old 01-06-2006, 12:33 PM   #34
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[*]A Chart of Bush Lies about Iraq



[*]A Top 30 Bush - Iraq Lies: A Reference For Seekers of Truth



[*]A Bush's Lies About Iraq



[*]A Yes, Bush lied


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Old 01-06-2006, 12:42 PM   #35
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Default Executive Summary

$500 billion wasted

2000+ young Americans killed

No WMD

No Connection between Iraq and 9/11



[i][b]Sadam was contained by hostile neighbors to the north and NE (Turkey, Iraq) and south (Saudia Arabia and Kuwait) by the Persian gulf to the east and two no fly zones.. i.e he wasn't go anywhere...nor was he planning any attacks on the U.S. because he would have been met with overwelming force and resolve of the American People.
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Old 01-06-2006, 12:53 PM   #36
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Default Re: Executive Summary (correction)

put Iran instead of Iraq after Turkey,
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Old 01-06-2006, 01:12 PM   #37
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Default Re: Janklow to regain law license.

This isn't some guy that is an ethical lawyer & just happened to be speeding one day & killed somebody. Janklow thinks he's above the law -- & perhaps he is. As an example, he instituted a no-smoking policy at the state capitol. But he smoked whever he wanted in his office. As I stated in a previous post, if someone else had been speeding & killed a motorcyclist, Janklow would have aggressively pursued the longest sentence & most severe punishment he could for that person.



Janklow thinks the law is for everyone else except him. However, he's got a lot of people in South Dakota afraid of him, so I doubt he will ever be held accountable for anything. Everyone knows that if you go against Janklow, he'll ruin you. He's the official state bully.



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Old 01-06-2006, 04:18 PM   #38
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Default Re: The Devil's Advocate speaks ...

I am more of an Objectivist. May be you should be an attorney?
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Old 01-06-2006, 05:40 PM   #39
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Default Re: The Devil's Advocate speaks ...

The venality and mean-spiritedness of these comments in appalling. He made a mistake. A tragic death occurred. Nothing can change that. But you act like he was a Nazi war criminal, just because, I assume, a motorcyclist was the innocent victim. Any of you could have been the driver of that car, except, of course, those who have never made a mistake behind the wheel of a car, or a motorcycle.
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Old 01-06-2006, 07:06 PM   #40
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Default Re: Janklow to regain law license.

There are lots of politicians like this. DeLay insists that taking free trips, money and favours in exchange for help in dealing with the government is perfectly acceptable. He insists that he hasn't done anything wrong because he likely thinks this is just how things get done in the capitol.



I imagine that anyone who gets a taste of power starts to think like this eventually.
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