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Old 09-28-2005, 08:39 AM   #1
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Default Re: Bike prices: ''Too high''? Factored properly in comparos?

Great post triplesguy. It would be interesting to chart 600s by the year Horspower or Quarter mile speed, etc vs. price (1970s) dollars. Kind of like those Computer charts showing processor speed vs year and cost.. Great time to be a rider...
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Old 09-28-2005, 10:04 AM   #2
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It occur to me during the past two weeks, as the Triumph Scrambler bowed, that it's pricing would probably doom it.



The Scrambler looks like tons of fun; embodying the minibike-for-grownups concept that I think would have broad and lasting appeal.



At $4,995, Triumph would sell boatloads as long as they import them. You'd have seen Scramblers everywhere. At $5,995, they'd have sold okay. At $7,995 they'll sell a handful to rich guys who can blow that kind of money on a bike they probably won't even ride that much. Lots of people will want a Scrambler, but few will actually buy one.

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Old 09-28-2005, 10:11 AM   #3
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Yes, but in 1970 $1,000.00 bucks a month was good money.



It's all relative. Let's look at some numbers:



Minicycles: 1971 Mini-Enduro $350.00

2005 Kawasaki 80 $4,500.00



Motorcycles: 1969 AT1MX: $695.00

2005 YZ125: $5,500.00







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Old 09-28-2005, 10:11 AM   #4
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Yes, but in 1970 $1,000.00 bucks a month was good money.



It's all relative. Let's look at some numbers:



Minicycles: 1971 Mini-Enduro $350.00

2005 Kawasaki 80 $4,500.00



Motorcycles: 1969 AT1MX: $695.00

2005 YZ125: $5,500.00







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Old 09-28-2005, 10:11 AM   #5
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I agree it looks like a stying exercise. Someone described it as a CL350. That was the CB350 with offroad pipes, but otherwise the same bike. The Scrambler looks like a Bonne with high pipes and what look like Goodyear tires. You could build a Scrambler from an old Bonneville for a lot less.
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Old 09-28-2005, 10:14 AM   #6
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...an H1. The rest of MO's description is true for that bike. But it was $995. More comparable pricing (to $1,600) were the $1,495 Honda CB750 four and the Triumph Trident and BSA Rocket 3 at $1,750. Those were THE four gofasts of that day.



Make that five, including the Norton Commando.

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Old 09-28-2005, 10:18 AM   #7
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...oops, those damn "command keys" again.



But I digress.



Now days bikes are much better, and cost about as much as they ever did. When you consider a family of four making 70 grand a year is just breaking even, bikes are still pretty cheap.





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Old 09-28-2005, 10:19 AM   #8
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It's even got the same "peashooter" pipe ends.
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I'd imagine there are a lot of factors that make for the big tickets. Starting with the fact that they sell in relatively small quantities.



Consider the liability insurance part. For the (few) U.S. manufacturers, add the health care and pension fund.



Personally, I can't figure out how an outboard motor can cost so freakin' much. Example, 250HP 4-stroke Honda: $17,900. Without the prop or controls!



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Or a 4hp Mercury for $4,500.00 !?!?!?



Are they nuts? Guess I'll keep the Elgin...
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