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Old 08-25-2005, 04:00 PM   #61
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We have a Catholic school her in St. Augustine. When school lets out every afternoon, the roads around it are jammed with large SUVs with mom at the wheel picking up little angel from school. Sitting idling for 10 to 15 minutes probably burns more gas than Pattie's Mazda 3 does driving 30 miles with the air on.
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Old 08-25-2005, 04:11 PM   #62
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Riding/commuting can be a hassle. How many times have you gone out to the bike and just didn't want to suit up because you were tired or the weather sucked and got in your car instead. The majority of today's drivers don't remember the gas lines of the 70's and are too lazy to prepare for and ride a bike. A seat belt is too much trouble for some of them. The are also to self absorbed and think that someone else needs to do the conserving thing, or the governement needs to fix the problem.
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Old 08-25-2005, 04:14 PM   #63
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The Joe publics perception of motorcycles being dangerous will be a hard nut to crack, thanks mainly to a small minority of riders.I see them every weekend cutting up the traffic at way above the speed limit, overtaking on blind corners,doulble white lines, tailgating in drivers blind spots,and usualy with someone's scantily clad daughter or son perched precariousy on the pillion seat.It seems the bigger the audiance,the more stupidly they ride. Unfortunatly its those reckless images that stick in peoples minds. Also, if vehicle gas milage is bad taking the kids down the road to school,or picking the odd item up at the local shop,maybe people should consider using the two apendages connected to the base of thier torso, I think it used to be called walking.
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Old 08-25-2005, 05:22 PM   #64
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A minivan would be a much more reasonable choice, even if that were the case.(Nobody needs a 5-6000 lb tank to commute in.) But I doubt it. I live in the DC Metro area, 90% of the SUV's i see on the road (and there are a lot of 'em) are single occupent.
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Old 08-25-2005, 06:00 PM   #65
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My 95 4 runner v6 gets about 14, 16 on a good day. Its totally gutless to boot, so that 350 sounds pretty good.
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Old 08-25-2005, 06:09 PM   #66
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Well, that's not exactly right: there are only three hybrids that currently qualify for the Clean Air Vehicle Sticker and a Lexus is not on the list.



And you haven't been able to buy a diesel passenger car here in Kalifornia for some time now (not that you'd necessarily want one since Number 2 Diesel is going for something over three bucks a gallon)!
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Old 08-25-2005, 06:26 PM   #67
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Not to mention the guys with the open pipes that hang out at the bar all day, and then take somebody's mother (scantilly clad of course!) for a most dangerous blast down the road to the hospital or worse. Yeah all of these things will conspire to always make us "the undesirables" and will always give Big Brother and his Nazis a reason to try to get rid of motorcycling.

The day that we can effectively police and take responsibility for our actions we might start to see bikes more readily accepted.

Ride long, hard and safe!

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Old 08-25-2005, 06:59 PM   #68
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Economics 101... OPEC no longer controls the price of oil.



OPEC stopped fully controlling the price of oil the day world demand exceeded world supply. Before that OPEC could LOWER the price of oil by pumping more. Right now OPEC and the rest of the world are pumping as fast as they can on a sustainable basis and the free market is bidding up the price of oil.
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Old 08-25-2005, 07:06 PM   #69
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Seemingly simple explanation. Most folks see motorcycling as a kind of extreme sport. No need to list the objective, let alone the subjective dangers associated with puttering around on 2 wheels. Gas economics is not a pursuasive argument that would ever enter into the decision dynamic for these people. Besides, with a little Honda or Toyota getting in the mid 30's, a motorcyle that might get you 45 is really not the kind of trade-off in year-round convenience and practicality that would move these folks to the dark side. Also, the demographics we see in European cycle use, whether muscle or motor-generated, do not historically exist here in the States, and never will. Lastly, can you imagine 60 or 100 million new motorcyclists on American roads? Let's remember, this would be the same cross-sectional crowd who can barely drive a car. A rather frightening vision, eh?
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Old 08-25-2005, 07:08 PM   #70
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A year from now you'll be experiencing deep nostalgia for the days of $3/gallon gas.



Five years from now, you'll be talking wistfully about the time you could drive your car any day you wanted, for as long as you wanted, all for incredibly cheap price of $3 dollars a gallon.



Twenty years from now, while you're in a food rations line, you'll be showing your grandkids a faded plastic card with your photo on it and explaining how it allowed you to drive your own car.



America, you've had it fat, soft and easy for five decades, and you're about to get the biggest karmic beotchslap in history. The softest generation ever raised in America is about to get thrown to the wolves.



Peak Oil. budget deficits, trade deficits, housing bubble collapse... no more daily trips to Wal-Mart in the Suburban to put a big load of cheap imported plastic crap on the credit card. Ohh the humanity!

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