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Old 01-09-2005, 10:00 AM   #61
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Default HOWDY

I've only ridden one XB, and I'd been riding an inline-four, several-months before-hand. So, in the 45-mins that I rode the Buell, I probably didn't have time to adjust to it. Consequently, that might be why I didn't care for it (though, I can't imagine how and RC-8 wouldn't make it a better bike). And, ya know something; now, that I've gone-over this Fischer-thing a while, it's really easy to understand why Eric Buell, sold his soul to the Devi...er...Harley (just kidding).



Either, Fischer has a lot of ball or heÂ’s Bat-$hit-Crazy! Because, without being capitalized by God himself, what Fischer's doing has to be a Pain-In-The-A$$, from the get-go!
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:05 AM   #62
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Default Re: Take a look at the SV650

I've entertained a minor theory that the real reason Honda was so successful was that the name wasn't instantly recognizable as Japanese. Yamaha is close to Omaha in sound and wasn't so irritating either. However Kawasaki (or Kamikaze as my grandmother used to say) and Suzuki are instantly recognizable and by that reason alone they were more likely to be rejected by Americans during a period so close to WWII. Interestingly, around that time the TV show Hogan's Heroes also received a lot of grief for their attempts to make the Germans in WWII look funny.



I didn't even need a junk science degree like Sociology to come up with that lame theory.
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:59 AM   #63
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Default Not lame at all

At least I don't think so. Take that for what it's worth.



Notice I didn't include Honda on my list of "Hey, we're the guys who bombed Pearl Harbor, remember?!" list of motorcycle brand names.



"Honda" isn't immediately recognizable as a Japanese name, and, at least on a sub-conscious level, was probably more acceptable in the U.S. during the time of introduction. Now, if Kawasaki was here first, I'm pretty sure they would have had a tougher sled than Honda. Suzuki is almost as bad. And Yamaha is probably the least potentially troubling, but I'm sure it sounded pretty weird to western ears at first.



P.S. I loved to watch "Hogan's Heroes" reruns. Part of its charm is how they shamelessly lampooned the Germans. I always wondered how people took that when the show originally aired.
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Old 01-09-2005, 02:05 PM   #64
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Default slow/fast - fast/slow

gforces, you have stumbled upon an undeniable motorcycle truth: It's more fun to ride a slow bike fast that it is to ride a fast bike slow!

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Old 01-09-2005, 04:27 PM   #65
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Default Re: Hey, would this qualify as an American Motorcycle?

Good one, LMFAO!
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Old 01-09-2005, 04:31 PM   #66
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Default Re: Fischer MRX 650: Would you buy one?

Think of it as a "melting pot" bike. What could be more American than that? ('scuse me while I throw up)
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Old 01-09-2005, 05:54 PM   #67
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Default Re: Not lame at all

I remember that my parents (my Dad was in the AirCorps in WWII) were highly incensed by the show and refused to watch it for a couple of years. "There was nothing funny about the Nazis" they'd say. My uncle, however, who fought with the Marines in the Pacific, thought it was a hoot. "Don't forget that we mongrels kicked those supermens' @sses", he'd say.



In retrospect though it was probably one of the worst things you could do to those insufferably arrogant Nazis (aside from simply shooting them in the head).... make fun of them and treat them as contemptible idiots and incompetents.
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Old 01-09-2005, 05:58 PM   #68
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Default Ouch, it hurts just thinking about it.

I can think of more edifying forms of masochism than studying medieval Russia, thank you.
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Old 01-09-2005, 06:49 PM   #69
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Default Re: Fischer MRX 650: Would you buy one?

At best the MRX 650 is American organized.

I am always hoping someone will build a true American sportbike, Fischer has missed the mark in my book. Made in the USA shouldn't be his selling point. He could sell it on looks alone. It is a good looking machine.
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Old 01-10-2005, 12:20 AM   #70
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Default Re: Fischer MRX 650: Would you buy one?

Yes I would buy one, with the team that Fischer has working on this project , you would be hard pressed to do better than that, it has to be one sweet piece of tack.

Gemini built the chassis for the ill fated VR 1000, and that bike could have won some races in the hands of people like DuHamel Chandler, Russell et al, thanks to its great handling, but it was the reliability, or lack of it, that made it fail, and we can thank the "Motor Company" for that, so much for American Made!

As far as Glynn Kerr, well his record speaks for itself, as a top notch designer for so many different companys for so many years, he definetly has the credentials, this bike has some great looks.

And last but not least, the engine, as schizuki stated above, we live in a global marketing environment, period. If you don't believe it go ahead and dissect a H-D bike down to the last bolt and nut and you will discover that a large % of those parts come from, horror of horrors, ASIA.

Not too long ago Sir Alan Cathcart, tested a Hyosung for one of the print rags and reported that the motorcycle was very impresive in the engine department, since his credentials are also impecable, having tested 500 GP bikes, 999 MotoGP bikes and just about everything under the sun, as well as having raced in the SuperMono series in Europe, I would would have to trust his opinion here. Some years ago, we were under the impression that everything that came from Japan was junk, and it was, right after WWII their quality was nonexisting, and the Koreans were in the same boat in the 80's. But how things have changed, some of the cars they are building right now are very good indeed, I know some very satisfied owners out there, with lots of miles on them without major problems, I wish I could say that about my Chevrolet Silverado Pick Up truck!

And as for price, if a bike like that was coming from Italy, Austria or Germany, it would cost twice as much.

Let's go Mr. Fischer, and good luck. USA, USA, USA!
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