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Old 12-03-2004, 08:45 AM   #1
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Well this certainly sux



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Old 12-03-2004, 09:11 AM   #2
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Speaking of Janklow, did anyone else see the interview with him on Frontline a while back? As if there weren't enough reasons to dislike him already, he was also a leading figure in helping banks setup credit card shops in a state without usury laws. It actually helps explain the intense aura of teflon-coated sleaze he radiates -- Citibank would probably be willing to finance his defense as a courtesy.
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Old 12-03-2004, 09:32 AM   #3
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Well that's a surprise, who'd a thunk a good red state polititian like Wanklow woud be above the law, I thought all the red staters were big on morals and peronal responsibility

I thought only rump rangers and liberal demos were the ones lacking proper morals and shirking their responsibility to sociaty.
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Old 12-03-2004, 10:34 AM   #6
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Martha Stewart was certainly guilty of securities law violations, but the reason you heard so much about her was due to the primarily "blue state" populist demagoguery against alleged corporate malfeasance - the same attacks that were largely responsible for the politically motivated, and largely unnecessary, Sarbanes-Oxley nonsense.



Also, the assertion that the Bush administration claimed that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11 is a canard. Being involved with al Qaeda, which Hussein almost certainly was according to most reasonable analysis, at some level, does not necessarily imply complicity in all of al Qaeda's activities. It's exactly that type of false claim that makes reasonable political discourse so difficult.



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Old 12-03-2004, 10:42 AM   #7
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You've been around long enough that reasoned political discourse with the Kook is a waste of time. The best response (if you really must respond) is the following:



1. Point out the Bushies will be in power for at least 4 more years (generations if he nominates the "right" jurists for the Supreme Court).



2. Go riding while he furiously looks for a link to some left wing wacko website.
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Old 12-03-2004, 10:45 AM   #8
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Too bad Martha wasn't convicted of a single securities violation, she was found guilty of obstruction of justice for basically asserting that she was innocent of said violations.



Also, just to get those puny convictions, it took the perjured testimony of a Secret Service agent who is now looking at more time at Club Fed for lying than Martha will ever spend.



She would never have done a day because the appeals process would have stretched longer than her life, but because she feels responsible to her employees and investors, she pulled a Goodfellas style "now take me to jail" to put it behind her. You sure don't see Kenny Boy and the other Bush faves at Enron with that kind of guts.
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Old 12-03-2004, 10:54 AM   #9
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No surprise, Janklow and his constituents have always been welfare queens... but it's high class welfare, not food stamps or piddling little checks for single moms but big fat subsidies, handouts for welfare ranchers, welfare farmers, mining, oil, natural gas, etc etc.



Ride past the mountains of stinking sugar beets some time... grown on Federally subsidized cropland, irrigated with Federal water, purchased with tax dollars to keep prices up by taking surplus off the market... then left to rot.

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Old 12-03-2004, 11:04 AM   #10
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I think you meant to say that the Bush Administration campaign to link (in voters minds) Saddam and 9/11... was a canard.



Pointing out that cynical lie is simply an accurate observation.
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