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Old 11-01-2004, 06:31 AM   #11
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Default You're missing the point of MotoGP

When Rossi *was* on a Honda (i.e. last season and the season before) everyone was howling how the Honda bikes were making him the best rider on the circuit. It was all about how Honda with their big bucks was winning everything. He asked for more $$ and Honda gave him the cold shoulder, essentially telling him (and every reporter that would listen) that it was their bikes, their technology, and their money that was winning the races, not Rossi. Funny how a year later, EVERYONE is saying that Rossi is to "blame" for winning everything. Never mind the Yamaha under his butt. According to what *some* folks are saying, he could probably still win riding a vespa. And they're probably right - if they allowed him a two-stroke vespa (ya I know it's nuts??).



Anyway, my point is - you can't cry about how it's the Motorcycle one year, and then the next year when you're proven wrong start blaming the rider?!?!
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Old 11-01-2004, 07:00 AM   #12
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Default Re: Valencia MotoGP Results

KTM has abandoned their MotoGP effort to concentrate resources on the RC8 Superbike. However, they have developed a MotoGP engine that will probably end up in the Protons next year.



BMW is entering MotoGP, possibly as soon as 2005, with a 990 cc triple and a chassis of their own design.



Might we see duolever in MotoGP?
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Old 11-01-2004, 08:04 AM   #13
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I, too, was hoping that Hopper would get a better ride. Well, Suzuki put up some fast qualifying times at some of the circuits. Maybe they can make a break through this winter and be competitive next year.



I hope Bayliss beats Ducati next year... and I hope Edwards beats Honda.



Oh, and Gibbers seems like a real decent guy. I hope he beats Rossi... even though I like Rossi, too.



Aw heck, I hope each of my favorite riders wins a race or two next year
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Old 11-01-2004, 08:10 AM   #14
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I went back and viewed the podium results for the season and it was more grossly dominated by Honda than I remembered. But, that didnÂ’t prevent this from being an interesting season for me.



Like you say, watching Rossi prove everyone wrong who said it was the Honda winning races and not him was great. IMO, RossiÂ’s a great champion and you canÂ’t help but like him and it was great to see him validate himself against the criticism. Up to Phillip Island the quest for the title was a nail biter. Sete made a great run at it all season. And I donÂ’t know if you can ask for a more exciting race than we saw at Phillip Island, an incredible duel between Val and Sete. And what about the first lap there?!?! Even after the season is decided we get treated to another close finish at Valencia. Rossi vs. Goliath was a lot of fun.



Next season will be the deciding season for Hayden and Hopkins to prove their merit in MotoGP. That will make it interesting for fans of the US riders. Will Kawasaki continue to improve and be a legitimate team? Maybe with another season or two weÂ’ll see one more legitimately competitive manufacturer. Ducati seems to be the most likely candidate. How nice for Bayliss to get a podium on his final ride for Ducati? It will be interesting to see what team (if any) picks him up and if he will prove Ducati wrong in releasing him.



I agree with what some others say though. ItÂ’s probably going to be someone not currently in the premier class to come up and challenge Rossi. But even that will most likely take a couple years. Coming out of the 125cc and 250cc class to the top level takes time for improvement. Who's it going to be??? Hopefully Val wonÂ’t be racing cars before then.



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Old 11-01-2004, 08:22 AM   #15
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Probably something on the order of: Spanish rider + Marlboro sponsorship = more cigarette sales. Or maybe Ducati feels they need a good Spanish crasher in case Xaus moves on. Either way, I'm sure Checa will have one great race on the Desmo just to make sure everyone knows how much he's underperforming for the rest of the year.
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Old 11-01-2004, 08:28 AM   #16
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Your right he didn't even come close to matching Gibernau or Biaggi. But we can always hope for better results next year.

Edwards finished behind Barros in points but Edwards did have a better season then Alex Barros, because Barros had the full factory support of Honda (Respol) and he did finish ahead of Tamada-san in points.

Can you tell that IÂ’m fishing for reasons why Edwards didnÂ’t set the Moto GP world on title?



I think Tamada is the only one who could hang with Rossi, given the right bike and tires. Biaggi and Gibernau faded under that pressure.

When Gibernau started to apply pressure Rossi just turned it up a notch and Gibernau wilted.

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Old 11-01-2004, 08:37 AM   #17
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OK, so Honda wins the manufacturer's title by a mile, but Suzuki, Kawasaki, and Ducati all made noticeable strides this year. And even if Honda's off-season R&D takes them right back to the top, I think the tire war in MotoGP has added a great competitive element. If Bridgestone brings their race tire up to the performance of their Q, then tire choice will go a long way towards equalizing Honda's dominance.
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Old 11-01-2004, 08:39 AM   #18
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<blockquote>It will be interesting to see what team (if any) picks him up and if he will prove Ducati wrong in releasing him.</blockquote>


I watched the webcast on MotoGP.com, and Bayliss specifically said that he would be back in MotoGP next year. He didn't specify with whom, but he did state very clearly that he would be in MotoGP.</p>
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Old 11-01-2004, 08:48 AM   #19
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The press buzz was that he'd go to Formula 1 car racing after next year.
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Old 11-01-2004, 09:25 AM   #20
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He'll probably ride for BMW so he can scuff up those heads like you do.
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