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Old 10-15-2004, 05:16 AM   #91
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This isn't that hard, guys. Look at a dyno chart. There is no way a sportbike is faster than a cruiser at 4000 rpm if it's making half the power. By that same logic a 600 could be faster than a literbike at the same rpm.
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Old 10-15-2004, 05:24 AM   #92
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Default For those that can't read

I'll post it again:



Sport bikes are generally recognized as higher risk motorcycles for the

following reasons:

a) very high maximum speeds

b) their ability to accelerate rapidly

c) very high power/weight ratios





In summary, sport bikes can be considered the highest risk vehicle on the road:

- sport bikes can be very difficult to control

- sport bikes are attractive to less experienced riders

- sport bikes tend to be more frequently used in higher risk situations



While sport bike rates are generally 28% higher than motorcycle rates overall, based

on claims experience they should be as much as 89% higher.





There ya go asswipe. I didn't "paraphrase" anything, jerkoff. I copied it straight from the report. That isn't "paraphrasing". You probably don't know the difference. The article in Motorcyclist was NOT A STUDY, nor did it have any basis in fact other than a bunch of sef-serveing blowhards making up shyt. It was an article that had no basis in science or fact. Those are the same guys at said speed had no effect on accidents! Yeah, good crew to cite for this argument. I ride a sportbike too. I just understand that they are NOT SAFER than cruisers, nor are the people that ride them. People are getting killed. Most of them here are on sportbikes and were speeding excessively when they crashed. Riding drunk is already against the law stupid, so how can I "support legislation to curtail this type of riding"??? Sport bike guys don't ride drunk?? In my life I saw many, so let's put that lie to rest. I've been riding 37 years, and probably have more miles on my shoes than you have on motocycles. I think you need to grow up and face facts. If you are personally offended by the FACTS that I posted, tough shyt. Plus, for the record, show me where I pissed and moaned about what ANYONE rode. If you are an example of what comes out of kindergarten these days, go back and learn how to read.
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Old 10-15-2004, 05:26 AM   #93
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Default Re: KPaul's rebuttal to longride.

You forgot about his childish name calling when he can't rebut any of your points. Hence the nicknames he uses that I haven't heard since the third grade. He should it least get his mom to help him with those so they don't sound so pathetic.



He's really gonna ***** himself if he ever goes to Daytona or Sturgis. 100% of the people riding choppers there are under 40. So much for naked sportbikes.
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Old 10-15-2004, 05:37 AM   #94
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2500??! I ride a 600 sport bike nearly every day - that thing is NEVER below 5000rpm unless the throttle is nearly closed.



What I'm saying is, most 600's never see 2500rpm - certainly not any "roll-ons" from that rpm range. Try about 6000-7000 rpm for a 80mph roll on (which is past the redline for most cruisers). And that's in top gear. Your comparing apples and oranges.



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Old 10-15-2004, 06:41 AM   #95
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Default Good opportunity!

While in Vietnam they can tour the Vietnamese War Museum where John Kerry's picture hangs in a place of honor. An honored ally of the North Vietnamese communists.



Remember the million people who fled Vietnam after the Commie takeover, to avoid imprisonment (re-education) or execution? A direct result of the actions of people like Ramsey Clark, Jane Fonda and, yes, John Kerry.



And let's not forget the fallout in Cambodia where 20-30 percent of the population was slaughtered by communists while the UN and the "compassionate people" wrung their hands. Also a result of the Fondas and Kerrys and their ilk. Those self-proclaimed experts who said with such authority and conviction that a communist takeover couldn't possibly be worse than resisting a communist takeover. This in spite of the fact that Soviet Communism had slaughtered millions across the globe in a methodical fashion that was as predictable as the sunrise.



These are just the sort of people we need running our foreign policy.



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Old 10-15-2004, 06:52 AM   #96
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I'm so sick of those stupid statements about braking that I could puke. I've can't think of a bike I've ridden with disc brakes that I couldn't haul to a screeching halt in a hurry. For that matter the old doubleleading drums were also efficient stoppers. So what if it requires a hard squeeze rather than two fingers?



Sportbike brakes are designed to withstand hard and virtually constant extreme use without failing. Streetbikes don't require that ability to dissipate the high heat loads. So that whole "better brakes" argument is just plain stupid.



Which makes it the perfect argument for Kook.



Skill trumps any supposed "advantage" anyhow.



And that idiotic reliance on magazine generated 0-60 times is another sore point. As if Kook is going to even come close to the under 3 second 0-60 the pro riders put up for the mags. So what i4 the 5'4" 135lb pro can get a Ninja through the 1/4 mile one half second faster than the XB12R? 1/2 sec? Kook's incompetent launching ability (which is where a drag race is truly won or lost) loses him a least a second or two to start with.



What rot.
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Old 10-15-2004, 07:04 AM   #97
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I don't think that there even was a 600 class when Reagan was president. Most people still wanted real motorcycles back then in the Good Old Daze.
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You really cruise through town at 6000rpm?
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Old 10-15-2004, 07:51 AM   #99
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...not to mention that 0-60 times have absolutely nothing to do with how safe a motorcycle is. I can't think of a single situation where your bike's ability to accelerate quickly from a stop using a drag race style launch will keep you from getting run over by a car. Rolling along at town speeds and having to accelerate quickly without downshifting is a much more common scenario.



Not to mention that launching a sportbike well is extremely difficult to do, and that a cruiser in this case would be MUCH safer since it is far less likely to wheelie over backwards...
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