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Old 09-22-2004, 08:01 AM   #21
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It's only a matter of time. I read recently where Korean car quality is fast approaching that of the Japanese cars. Both Japanese and American car companies are swarming into China. Gm is the second largest manufacturing in China behind Volkswagon. Korea is ahead of the game.



I would look to China to be the next powerhouse in bikes. They have very cheap labor, foreign manufacturers are more than willing to partner, the Chinese government will give every advantage to domestic companies and they get to start with the latest technology, unlike the Japanese and Americans.



We need to develop a whole new engine technology and leap-frog the current "old tehcnology". Any ideas?
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Old 09-22-2004, 08:06 AM   #22
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I'm talking about standard street bikes in the 125-500cc range. The Eliminator is a cruiser, like the Honda Rebel.



The 650-750 machines are too big to be a "small/medium" UJM (UKM?)



Since I'm an old fart, I still consider anything over 350cc to be an "open" bike.



A 125cc V-twin standard is something you don't see much. Even if it does weight 400 lbs...

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Old 09-22-2004, 09:25 AM   #23
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The motor looks like a carbon copy of an SV-650 (At least the right-side exterior). However, I doubt the metallurgy is up to snuff with the actual Suzuki. The frame looks like a modified GS-500 design and probably doesn't have either the stiffness nor the durability of a real SV-650. Just a hunch.... -Sean
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Old 09-22-2004, 09:32 AM   #24
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MO uses methane powered motors in all of our commuter vehicles. However, they only work when we take staff lunch excursions to the Sister Mary Burrito. -Sean
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Old 09-22-2004, 10:40 AM   #26
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be that as it may, would you buy an obscure Korean motorcycle from a grown man who still called himself "Bobby"
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Old 09-22-2004, 10:43 AM   #27
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That's 'cause it's made out of durable cast iron and sched. 80 pipe.

Them Koreans build them to last.
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Old 09-22-2004, 10:57 AM   #28
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I just bought my wife an '04 Hyundai Sonata thats a beautiful car. 16 in. alloys, 4 wheel discs, ABS, pretty well loaded, to get those features in any other mid-size would have cost $5~6 k more.

Their initial quality, reliability and customer satisfaction ratings are equal to or above anyone else and they back it up with a 5yr bumper to bumper warranty

So yes, I'd be keeping an eye out for Korea if I was Japan Inc.
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Old 09-22-2004, 11:54 AM   #29
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The new Tiburon looks pretty cool. Fast too.



I'm in favor of a $2,000.00 out the door price for a new mid-sized bike, that just begs for cheap performance upgrades. Wonder if Suzuki parts fit?



Historically, before WWII Korea played Japan and China off against each other, adopting whichever platform that was "in-power" at the time, much like the Alsace portion of France-Germany.



Hyosung also has a neat little dual-sport, that looks like a DR knock-off (for half the price).
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Old 09-22-2004, 12:08 PM   #30
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What ever happened to the orbital engine? (Supercharged two stroke with a four-stroke lower end, utilizing a pressurized intake injector, and exhaust port). Ford had them in English Escorts, it put out about 120 horsepower from an engine that weighed 90 lbs. complete. I hear Ford killed it, along with any 2 stroke motor for rally cars.
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