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seruzawa 08-10-2004 11:14 AM

Re: He just married his momma
 
The problem with utopia is people.

seruzawa 08-10-2004 11:36 AM

KP's problem is not his opinons but his stinking bad manners and his arrogance. I'm sure you and I could have a very rational discussion on the subject of socialism (in a proper forum) without resorting to insults or threats. You might be surprised to know that I am not utterly opposed to socialism.. just socialism by force. Compassion is measured by what we do personally to help people.. not by voting for some incompetent govt sheme.



KP is incapable of a free exchange of ideas simply because he can't go two sentences without spewing some sort of insult and talking down to people with twice his knowledge and experience. This encourages others to respond in turn and bait him into a posting frenzy. He's as regular as Pavlov's dogs in this regard.

pdad13 08-10-2004 11:40 AM

Re: What Did We Do To Tick'em Off
 
Oh...sorry to hear that.

BMW4VWW 08-10-2004 12:02 PM

Re: He just married his momma
 
Nplateau, seruzawa is right. there is nothing inherently wrong with socialism, just so long as it's not being rammed down your throat at gunpoint by corrupt politicians. Here is an exellent example of socialism called kumiai practiced in Japan.



http://www.lewrockwell.com/rogers/rogers50.html



VWW

BMW4VWW 08-10-2004 12:07 PM

Re: Thanks Nplateau
 
I didn't see one negative comment pointed at your daughter. On the other hand pleanty were pointed at you for being such a tool. VWW

pdad13 08-10-2004 12:19 PM

Re: He just married his momma
 
If we're talking in terms of economic systems, strict Communisim has never really existed. We use the term "Socialism" in general to describe a whole range of systems that incorporate a significant form of state-controlled redistribution of wealth. European nations tend to have more "socialistic" traits than we do.



On the political spectrum, the Soviet Union and China were far left, almost, but not quite true Communism (even they were smart enough to recognize that true Communism was unworkable). Great Britain in the 70's was a highly socialistic nation--"The Nanny State"--, but not even close to the USSR, and it was a huge disaster.



You must remember that we are really discussing an Economic system and not a social ideology. Many people don't understand that. Yes, we all want everyone to live full, rich lives. If I could wave a magic wand now and make it so I would. But giving a government the responsibility to do so has never seemed to work.



Highly socialist states rob people of incentive, ambition, reward and creativity. It's the unintended consequenses that are the killer.



But I still dig you, man. Keep flogging that Ninja.


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