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Old 06-02-2004, 01:10 PM   #41
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Sounds like Hyosung needs to join the MIC to get access to those statistics. I work for a member company, so I have them. The OEM's usually will not dispense numbers of vehicles sold, and they certainly will not tell you their profit margins on various models. Nice try, though.
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Old 06-02-2004, 02:33 PM   #42
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"other than the V-Tec, which has absolutely no real benefits."



Hey now, it adds more weight for fighting crosswinds...
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Old 06-02-2004, 02:43 PM   #43
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Point taken. They still have a pretty small lineup considering the size of the company though. Both Ksaki and Zooki, much much smaller m/c companies, have more offerings.
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Old 06-02-2004, 02:45 PM   #44
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With "logic" like that you should run for office!
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Old 06-02-2004, 02:54 PM   #45
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Default Re: Methinks ye doth attest to Honda too loudly

A limited production run of Ruines is hardly a risk. They were pretty much guaranteed to sell them given the current large number of people who seem to gravitate to those sorts of things.



I think Honda should start it's own nostalgia bike line. Revamped 305 Scramblers and updated CBXes for starters. Boomers'd love 'em. How about a lineup of updated 150 and 305 Dreams?



Put me in charge of Honda. I'll straighten them right out!



I know they offer a large selection. But I still think Honda is boring. And overpriced. $5199 for a 250cc scooter? Get real.
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Old 06-02-2004, 03:34 PM   #46
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I think Honda should start it's own nostalgia bike line. Revamped 305 Scramblers and updated CBXes for starters. Boomers'd love 'em. How about a lineup of updated 150 and 305 Dreams?



So how well did the GB500 sell? How about Kawasaki's W650?



How big of a market would this really be?



I know they offer a large selection. But I still think Honda is boring. And overpriced.



I just picked up an 04 F4i for less than $8K OTD. I don't find it boring at all.



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Old 06-02-2004, 04:34 PM   #47
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Really? Kawasaki doesn't offer any scooters, large 4-stroke (450) MX bikes, or a middleweight cruiser in the 1100-1300cc category, or a real touring bike, and has several completely redundant models (like the Z1000 and the ZRX1200, the ZZ-R1200 and the Concours- just put bags on the ZZ-R and be done with it)



Suzuki's cruiser lineup is pathetic, lacking any cruisers with windshields or saddlebags (although Honda has the same gap in their lineup), or a middleweight cruiser. Suzuki also doesn't have a big 4-stroke MXer, small scooters, or a real touring bike, or a real sport-tourer for that matter, all of which Yamaha has. They do seem to have is a bunch of redundant sporty bikes (do we really need a Bandit and an SV from the same company?) and several answers to questions no one has asked, like the DL650 and the Savage.
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Old 06-02-2004, 04:35 PM   #48
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Yes, but it lightens your wallet at the same time, so the actual effect is nil...
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The W650 is a bad example- all it was was a knockoff of a knockoff of a BSA. The Zephyr is a better example, although the end result was the same as the W650.
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Old 06-02-2004, 04:38 PM   #50
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Looks like you have a triplet of 2.67 cylinder engined bikes. Throw them together and you can have a V-8.
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