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Old 03-08-2004, 10:16 AM   #21
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Default Re: So you wanna move to San Diego?

Wow, I guess the FZ1 will become a commuter with prices like that. I'm glad the Jetta gets 45 mpg, I would go broke if she was driving an Expedition. I will be in the Navy out there, so I doubt that I will have the time or desire to work any more than I already do. Well maybe I can move somewhere cheap when I become a civilian again. In the mean time, I'll try to enjoy the ghettofied apartment that I can afford.
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Old 03-08-2004, 10:20 AM   #22
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Default Re: So you wanna move to San Diego?

I live in Carlsbad which is near Camp Pendleton. I see lots of Marines who have weekend jobs and such.



Maybe it helps keep the young jarheads out of trouble but I'm sure much of it is to help make ends meet.
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Old 03-08-2004, 10:26 AM   #23
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Default Re: 4 Bikers wiped out around Daytona

How many drivers will killed last month during the Daytona 500 festivities? We love to mix babies and bathwater, apples/oranges and what ever else will add flavor the to the press.
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Old 03-08-2004, 10:32 AM   #24
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Hmmm....Although I see your point with the above examples, I think a completely relevant example would be mandatory seat belt use. Undoubtedly, seat belts save lives. Sure there are the isolated cases where the person was actually hurt by the belt, but that is usually due to an improper adjustment or other strange situation. You don't hear car drivers ranting and raving about freedoms and rights and such when they get a ticket for not wearing their belt.



I don't want anyone telling me what to do, but sometimes you need to be realistic about what a law is meant to achieve and how far 'The Man' is going to take that law. Without those same seemingly intrusive government regulations you would have a hard time doing lots of things, what I don't know exactly, but I'm sure someone has some example!
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Old 03-08-2004, 10:36 AM   #25
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that's why I always wear a full face helmet in the shower
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Old 03-08-2004, 10:39 AM   #26
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You don't see the cagers complaining simply because they aren't motorcyclists. They are sheeple!



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Old 03-08-2004, 10:51 AM   #27
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Default Re: You think you're cranky? Comparo?

I rode 150 miles of West Virginia back road bliss yesterday in 60 degree splendor. Woke up to 4 inches of white ****e this morning. Take another look out your door for me. I need a tissue.
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Old 03-08-2004, 11:00 AM   #28
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Default Re: You think you're cranky? Comparo?

I rode about 250 miles Saturday on the Duc in the mountains East of San Diego. There was a nice blanket of snow covering the burn areas on either side of the road. You could look down into the desert and see it was clear and 80 degrees and I was crunching through the snow.



Snow is pretty when you could ride out of it and go back home to warmth.
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Old 03-08-2004, 11:14 AM   #29
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Default Re: 4 Bikers wiped out around Daytona

Wow, only 4-6 riders died out of 600,000 or so. That's a pretty good safety record. I'll bet the death toll for new year's eve in a town with a similar population is double that.
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Old 03-08-2004, 11:48 AM   #30
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Default Re: OK, let's stir up a helmet law debate...

Well this is the problem with stats. If you look at another unrelated area you will see that when a drunk driver colides with the sobber driver the drunk tends to walk away when the sobber person dies. Hmmm does this mean we should all drive drunk. Cops would pull you over and give you a fine (or make you take a drink) if you are driving too straight... This is what happens when you look at stats and do not do a proper regression analysis!



I think there are many more factors, what type of bikes do helmeted riders typically ride verses non. What type of roads do they drive on, how fast do they go (ie are they speders or not) etc. Bottom line, you crash with a lid you have better chance, all else being equal of course.



And having said that, I wear my bicycle helmet when I am going to take risks on my bicycle. I do not wear it when I am going for a casual ride. But in the end my bicycle helmet does not make me take bigger risks, I think the same will hold true for motorcycles and will skew the results. Guys out for a slow cruise to the store should crash less than canyon carvers.
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