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Old 11-18-2003, 03:24 AM   #1
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Define off-road. Here in New Hampshire we have numerous Class 5 and 6 roads that can be ridden on nearly any bike including my SV650. But depending on the time of year and weather, many are impassable with anything short of a true dual-sport (KLR, XR, DR). I have friends with BMW GS and F models who have gotten themselves stuck because they bought the hype about 'adventure touring'. These giant machines are to motorcycles like Lincoln Navigators are to 4-wheelers. Yes, by definition they can go off-road, but do so at your own risk. With the price of real dual-sports being so low and the insurance being equally low, I can't understand why anyone would not own one.



I own a KLR250, SV650, and MAgna 750 and my insurance is <300 a year with full coverage on the SV and Magna.
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Old 11-18-2003, 03:31 AM   #2
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Are you serious? Do you really consider FZ6 as a bike for the "off-road" ??



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Old 11-18-2003, 04:15 AM   #3
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And another thing - You should consider SuperMoto. It I-S 2 bikes in one..
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Old 11-18-2003, 04:44 AM   #4
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Street bikes aren't made to be dropped.



There's an old saying in motodom: "If you think Harleys are expensive, try dropping a Honda."



Get a dual sport if you want to get dirty.
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Old 11-18-2003, 05:09 AM   #5
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Take your VFR to Tom Ridyard (see the previous post) and have him build you a hack rig.



Put some knobbies on it, and you'll have a *****in' offroader!
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Old 11-18-2003, 05:28 AM   #6
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Can I have your permission to moderate your post to -1 before KPaul get at it? It'll save him some time.
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Old 11-18-2003, 05:28 AM   #7
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In fifth grade a friend and I learned how to ride a real motorcycle, as opposed to a shiftless mini-bike, on a CB550 Four owned by his older brother. When he was at work we'd drive all through the woods on that thing, having the time of our lives sliding all over the place drunk with power. After getting caught, beaten, and punished, our parents decided we could get dirt bikes. After the power of the 550 (imagine a 65 pound rider!) the YZ80's were a bummer on the street, but holy crap we were blown away at how fast we could go off road.



Off road bikes are limited on the street by their tires and their power.



Street bikes are limited off road by their weight, tires, ground clearence, gearing, suspension travel, unprotected body and trim parts, weight, weight, weight...



If you want the most verstile bike ever made buy a big displacement dual sport.
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Old 11-18-2003, 05:37 AM   #8
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Seruzawa sent me a giant can of Raid to fend him off.



Can I have your permission to moderate my own post upward to 4 or 5?
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Old 11-18-2003, 05:39 AM   #9
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Any bike can do logging roads as long as you take it easy, If you mean anything more serious than that I'd get a V Strom or KLR650 or something along those lines, I wouldn't try to modify anything else to make it dirt worthy because it's either going to cost a fortune and still not work very well, or cost a fortune and not work at all.

There's plenty of big duel purpose bikes like the afore mentioned V strom and KLR. Plus the Tiger, Capo Nord GS 1000, any of those would be cheaper and work better than trying to turn a VFR, SV650 or Concours into a dirt bike.
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Old 11-18-2003, 05:47 AM   #10
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One word - KLR650.



Cheap, droppable and with the right rubber, suspension and sprockets I can keep up with all the bikes you listed (FZ6, Kawi Z750, Honda 599 and Suzuki SV650) in the twisties.



There is a huge aftermarket and rider community supporting the KLR. Check out the FAQ: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html



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