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SeanAlexander 10-29-2003 07:37 AM

It all depends on your repertoire. If you are only into doing Burnouts and Drag-Racing, then you aren't going to have much fun on an Enfield. Likewise, if your sole mission in life is to set the lowest laptime at the track, you're not going to dig that chopper over yonder.

The most fun I've EVER had, was on a little Honda "Express". I was about 7 years old and found one under the Christmas tree. The fun occurred before everyone else woke up, before I had even pushed the little motorcycle off of its center stand. Just seeing it and knowing it was mine, then sitting on it and dreaming about all that was to be, were a highlight that I'll never forget. Higher even than the first time I exceeded 100mph or the first time I touched a knee down around an apex. Nursing my friend's 30cc moped home from an all-day adventure in the hills, using the pedals to get us up the hills and maxing out at nearly 20mph, while tucked-in two-up, was every bit as fun and exciting as riding my brand-new 1979 Honda XL-125s at 10, or his brand-new 1981 YZ-250 at 12.

I guess motorcycling is what you make it. I'm 34 now and still having the time of my life on anything from beater XR-100s to Graves Yamaha R-1 Formula Extreme race bikes.

nomad76 10-29-2003 07:41 AM

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I think you're looking at a complex problem in today's motorcycling world -- evolving consumership. While I personally agree that a bike owner needs to be more involved in their machines, it's things like that, that have kept ridership down. People are used to their conveniences these days, and who wants to ride a bike where you have to check if the points have burned out every time you stop?

I fall more on your side of the camp, because I think total ignorance of your machine leaves you at the mercy of the dealers (and we all know how easy THEY are to work with, don't we?). Still, new riders shouldn't be berated because they want their bikes actually work. A lot of old riders think you shouldn't ride unless you can change your oil, adjust your chain, change a tire and make a fuse out of a hay penny. This is just not realistic, and it looks like the furture of ridership rests squarely on the shoulders of people who just don't care about the mechanics of the thing.

That's the way of things now. Why cook when you can eat out? Why read when you can watch TV? Why rebuild the toaster when they cost $10 at K-mart? Why change my car's oil when Jiffy Lube will do it for $25? It's the same way with bikes. The typical new rider wants all the technology, none of the hassle. And starting with my old CB750, that's the way things were for a lot of my bikes, though I did learn to clean the carbs and change the oil on my old Suz GS750L.

So, are you saying we should fault the new type of rider, or celebrte the old? Me? I'm stuck in between ...

pushrod 10-29-2003 08:56 AM

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I'd like to say that lately the content of this site has been outstanding!

This string, the one previous on night rides, others on the whys and the hows. Let the other sites regurgitate company blather on their new wunderbike, or provide 100 words on the latest news.

The give and take of a motorcycle intellegentsia. That's why I subscribe!

Thanks Sean, Longride and Eric- Ride safe and keep up the good work!

Hector1 10-29-2003 09:30 AM

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Blixco you have a point. My first bike was an '86 Honda VF 500. It was about a year old when I bought it. Since then I have owned about 8 other motorcycles, ranging from a Yamaha XT 600 to a Kawi ZX 11 to a Buell Lightning. Guess what, I have been scrounging the want ads for another VF 500! Why? By far the best motorcycle I ever owned. Fun, reliable, and fairly inexpensive by today's standards. Enjoy your GPz!


SeanAlexander 10-29-2003 09:50 AM

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maladg 10-29-2003 10:01 AM

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which bike is almost irrelevant. it is your state of mind and almost nothing else that is relevant.

SparkyBlue 10-29-2003 10:16 AM

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An interesting comment on the relative importance of technology in motorcycle riding in general. I think that importance depends on who you are. Many people have an appreciation for different bikes, both old and new. Is that being nostalgic? Maybe. I put myself in that category as my first ride was a pushrod Honda trail bike with several other bikes since. I've owned singles, twins, 4 cyl, and even a 6 cyl and liked them all, for different reasons.

I question the motive of riders who ride only for show, to impress others, or socialize. Not a judgement, but an observation that they really may not care much about motorcycles.

clively 10-29-2003 10:17 AM

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I posted this question previously under one of the recent articles about racers, but felt to do it again since it hints under this topic as well. An Aprilia dealer just started in my town and as I drove by I saw a rs50 (racer replica moped). It looked really neat but the salesman did not know much about it & I didn't have time to test drive it. I am 5'11" & 200# and wondered if it would be a neat, economical toy to have fun on when not riding my cruiser. I was looking at a sv650 but insurance is as high as my cruiser for it. I thought this may be fun to ride without breaking the bank. I know Gabe and others talked on the issue for the 2002 scooter smackdown but I wanted more information on the little machines. Thanks in advance for the input.

donpussehl 10-29-2003 10:28 AM

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You have kinda brought to mind my 30 year affair with Ducatis. The new multistrada is a hoot to ride,reliable and turns the right signals on with the air cooled motor and distinctive architecture. It is kinda wierd that modern technology needs ever bigger motors to make the same fun as smaller motors once did. I think that it is we who have changed.Don

ewok1 10-29-2003 10:29 AM

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i agree. in fact i call all my late model japanese bikes appliances. but i love em. they start every time, rarely strand me and they are a blast to ride. how can that be anything but positive.

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