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Old 10-10-2003, 03:22 AM   #1
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Default Re: It's for your own good!

I'm starting to be of agreement, after a dealer sold a 600 supersport to someone who had never ridden a bike before, and didn't bother to find out. This guy had to get someone else to ride the bike home for him...

I think there should be a hp limit on new riders, similar to some parts of Europe...
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Old 10-10-2003, 03:28 AM   #2
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I agree totally. I know a guy who was convinced by the local dealership that just because he weighs over 200 lbs, he should get a 1000cc bike. He bought a Kawi ZX 11 as his first bike and totally wrecked it within 3 hours of pick up.
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Old 10-10-2003, 04:05 AM   #3
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If he was over 200 lbs., should he have gotten a FatBoy??
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Old 10-10-2003, 04:07 AM   #4
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Part of me wants to say it's Darwinism at it's finest. However, this is the one case where I feel that the government should step in a protect us from ourselves. Either mandate real motorcycle training and tests (I don't know about you guys, but here in sunny Atlanta the test is a complete joke!) Alternatively, we must go to a gradual introduction to horsepower, notice I said horsepower and NOT displacement, we all know displacement is not an accurate predictor of power.



Something has to be done to stop the thousands of squids and 40-something grey-haired ponytail crowd from making a mess of the streets every year. It's only giving us as bikers even worse reputations than we already have.



Funny thing tho' I expect the most opposition to this would come from the guys in the power ranger suits and $900 helmets.
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Old 10-10-2003, 04:22 AM   #5
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I really don't think Valentino Rossi really cares one way or the other.
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Old 10-10-2003, 04:29 AM   #6
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I rode my brand-new GSXR600 home at the age of 21, having only spent 1/2 hour on actual motorcycles in my entire life prior to that point. 6 years later I own an R1 and I'm doing trackdays.



No matter how socialist some high-horse motorcylists get, a law like this will never be passed in America. Frankly it is our birthright to do that which is not good for us but harms no one else.



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Old 10-10-2003, 04:40 AM   #7
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"I really don't think Valentino Rossi really cares one way or the other."



>>in sotto voce<< "Psst, I meant the wannabes."
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Old 10-10-2003, 04:42 AM   #8
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I own the power ranger suit, but my helmet only cost $200. You're right though, I do object to placing restrictions on motorcyclists to protect us from ourselves.



So long as I don't present an unreasonable threat to others when out on the road, let me ride whatever bike my wallet can support. You'll be hard pressed to show me that riding a Ninja 250 makes it safer for others to be around me than if I'm on a ZX-11.



For the record, I learned to ride on a '75 Honda CL360 which was never considered a power house.
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Old 10-10-2003, 04:45 AM   #9
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Default Finally. common sense is found to be uncommon

Let's face it motorcyclist aren't known for having good sense by most peoples accounts. After all we put ourselves at higher risk going down the road without a couple tons of steel around us. So you take this high risk group and turn them lose in a dealer show room and most of the time it will come down to $money$ that makes the decision as to what bike Jonny wants to ride. We have no common sense about risk.



Now I see a plan to restrict new riders to smaller bikes. Just like Japan and England and a lot of countries in Europe have.



I don't care about how much sense it makes. I just want to see the new smaller bikes that end up in this country. Let's face it if you are stuck buying a 400cc bike then you'll see really trick 400's and lightweight smaller bikes that aren't made out of tin show up in this country to satisfy the consumer that won't be seen on an EX500 but would love to have an RVF400R....



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Old 10-10-2003, 04:54 AM   #10
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"...we must go to a gradual introduction to horsepower". Well said.



My Wife started on a Honda VLX and I don't think anyone here would think it is anywhere near the performance of even a Ninja 250. Let the legislators get a hold of it though and they'll just consider displacement.
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