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Old 09-17-2003, 12:53 PM   #1
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Even without seeing a list, you can't help but see how great a loss this is. Some vintage bikes are fairly easy to come by, but there are so many more that would be considered a treasure hunters dream come true. We can only hope that there is some potential left for restoration on a few of these gems.
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Old 09-17-2003, 02:30 PM   #2
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You would think they'd have a decent sprinkler system to nip fires in the bud. You'd think that any damage of the vintage bikes from water exposure would be much less than fire damage.
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Old 09-17-2003, 05:36 PM   #3
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Write some horribly distasteful mock news story about a Lucas fire alarm, or the cause of the blaze being traced back to an oil leak or something, but sheesh...it's like fish in a barrel. But you gotta admit, there sure have been a lot of British bikes burning lately! Maybe we are coming upon the end times?



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Old 09-17-2003, 06:10 PM   #4
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I guess that the remaining vintage bikes in other people's possesion have now increased in value as their brothern have become toast. I have to agree with the comment of why no sprinkler system? You would think that the insurance company for the museum would have insisted on one.



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Old 09-17-2003, 11:27 PM   #5
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About the sprinkler system... being that my guess that a water system wouldn't help against the potential "engine/machinery" fire, what other options do places like this have? Wouldn't somthing like a oil and possible gas fire be nothing for water to cut down?... you tell me.



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Old 09-18-2003, 02:35 AM   #6
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Yeah, but I wouldn't think that vintage bikes in a museum would still have oil and gas still in them, would they? It's not like they ever get ridden.



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Old 09-18-2003, 02:48 AM   #7
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According to this article, fire started near the elevator:

http://www.cyclenews.com/ShowStory.asp?HeadlineID=5373



I didn't realize that the collection was privately owned. I was lucky enough to see it several years ago. It was quite a display.
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Old 09-18-2003, 02:48 AM   #8
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One of the pictures in the motorcyclenews.com article shows the skeletal remains of the FIRST BSA, 1904. Bummer.
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Old 09-18-2003, 05:32 AM   #9
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It is sad to see any historical collection or artifacts get destroyed. Recall a few years ago when the Taliban organization destroyed some ancient Buddhist monuments in Eastern Afghanistan. Why? Why did early settlers of California and Oregon cut down old-growth Sequoia forests?



For some reason museum fires seem to be relatively common. Probably no more common than any other fires; we just tend to hear about them.



At least this appears to be accidental. At least, letÂ’s hope so.

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Old 09-18-2003, 08:44 AM   #10
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A fire sprinkler system would have done the trick about 98% of the time..unless it was arson or the water supply was compromised. This bites big time.

As a commercial insurance Loss Control guy, I'm going to be extremely (%^%&**'ed if when I get up to the AMA Heratige Museum here later this fall and find it without fire sprinklers. It WILL be time to open a can if that is the case!
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