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SRMark 07-18-2003 07:27 AM

Re: Mandated Driving and Skills Tests for Elderly
 
I could not agree with you more.

brickl 07-18-2003 08:32 AM

Re: costs of non-helmet use
 
Well, since the people previously referred to as "retards" are now safely and tongue-twistingly labeled as "developmentally disabled", allow me to re-purpose the coarse yet illuminating term. But first let me tell a story.



I've racked up 29,000 miles on the two-wheeled odometer in the last 12 months alone. Partly because I love to do it, and partly because half of that time has been spent on the unemployment line.



During that time I've been off the saddle once, but "nearly killed" six times. Three of those near death experiences came as a result of another person's illegal and incredibly stupid driving/riding decisions.



Of the three, the last was the only one I was unable to avoid, and it cost me my bike and, for a while here, my health.



Yes, those three people who drove and rode like morons are dumb, but the other three occurrences came as a result of an even dumber living being. Yes, deer. The last incident had an adult doe, completely hidden in the roadside brush, jumping out in front of me while I was going 60mph, with oncoming traffic. Instead of T-boning the hooved animal, however, she stopped short and whacked her head, mightily, against the unprotected portion of my leg, between the knee padding of my riding pants and the upper calf armor of my A-stars boot. Now that hurt like nothing I've ever felt in my life, believe me.



But that's not the point of this exercise, just supporting commentary. The point is, invariably at some point people who ride motorcycles will have an "incident" that will or could see them separated from their bike and quickly introduced to a hard surface. This is not high science, it's common sense. Something anyone with even negligible intelligence can see.



People who ride their motorcycles on the highways and who do not use appropriate safety gear are in my opinion very slow learners. They see that the machine on which they ride offers no protection from a fall. They know how fast they will travel at highway speeds. And they know how hard, abrasive, and unforgiving asphalt, concrete, ARMCO, trees, signs, and tractor-trailers are. Yet they decide to ride in a T-shirt and jeans w/ no helmet, gloves, etc.



In my opinion these people exemplify a group that should be referred to as the "new retard", someone who sees the danger, has the ability to mitigate the danger, yet in the end decides that they will not benefit from safety gear.



To me the only thing that's worse than the "new retard" is the "new retard" who convinces another human to do the same thing.




BMW4VWW 07-18-2003 09:47 AM

Re: Mandated Driving and Skills Tests for Elderly
 
You forgot mandatory helmet use for pedestrians. Just think "how many lives would have been saved" if all of the people mowed down by that old codger had been "properly attired," Call your congressman now! VWW

maladg 07-18-2003 10:45 AM

Re: Mandated Driving and Skills Tests for Elderly
 
I've been through this one with elderly relatives and will be doing it again with wife's parents shortly -and my own parents soon enough. Warning - it is agonizing to do..even when it is the right thing.

One report I heard mentioned that the Santa Monica geezer thought he had the brakes on. Remember the Audi "unintended acceleration" crap pushed by CBS? That particular "brainfart" may not be all that rare. BTW, there was and is NO SUCH THING as unintended acceleration. Any properly functioning brake system can stop any auto (or bike) even if full power is being applied. What is real is that folks just flat don't hit the right pedal and get confused.

Being middle aged sucks. Now instead of having my keys confiscated by my parents, I've got to confiscate my parents keys (soon). Believe me, you won't enjoy it, but it is the right thing to do.

Good luck to any and all MOrons who are facing this one


NHBandit69 07-18-2003 11:14 AM

Adjusted Statistics
 
When miles travelled are taken into account, the elderly are statistically more likely to be involved in accidents than ANY other group. Of course, every other group also has both a defined bottom and top age, while the elderly do not.



Reflexes, hearing, and vision all decline with age - scientific fact. At some point, you simply cannot competently control a motor vehicle, and should be off the road. Your "right" to drive ends at the boundaries of my property; you do not have the "right" to place anyone else at increased risk by being on the road.



Ah, the AARP - a proud tradition of fighting for the rights of the elderly to kill everyone else...

TatdNPrcd 07-18-2003 11:50 AM

Very funny
 
I still have a scar on the top of my head from a dodge ball accident in '74. I don't think that game is allowed in elementary school anymore. To violent.



No lawsuit. No blame on the kid that threw the ball. It was a game and we were playing. I had blood flowing down my face, took five stitches and it hurt like he!! but I'm fine now. I'm fine now. I'm fine now. I'm fi...

Abe_Froman 07-18-2003 12:13 PM

Re: Mandated Driving and Skills Tests for Elderly
 
If you're worried about your money, you should be campaigning against AARP and its blue-haired constituents. Spending on old people (Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the new perscription drug crap, endless other programs) is the single largest expenditure of federal government funds. They have made scaring old people and vote-buying a cottage industry.



All this despite the fact that the elderly are easily the wealthiest demographic and the vast majority of them DO HAVE health insurance.

captainwhoopass 07-18-2003 01:22 PM

Re: costs of non-helmet use
 
"To me the only thing that's worse than the "new retard" is the "new retard" who convinces another human to do the same thing."



You mean ABATE?

boru4761 07-18-2003 02:08 PM

Re: Mandated Driving and Skills Tests for Elderly
 
BMW4VWW,

I have been meaning to ask you this. What does the VWW stand for?


BMW4VWW 07-18-2003 02:31 PM

Re: Mandated Driving and Skills Tests for Elderly
 
The letters VWW are my initials. Apparently my folks figured that if I was born retarded (oops, make that mentally impared) I at least would be able to scrawl out those easily written letters. VWW


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