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Old 06-20-2003, 04:03 PM   #161
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Sometimes you just have to live dangerously.
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Old 06-20-2003, 04:11 PM   #162
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Default Re: PA Helmet Law Changing

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I believe that Benjamin Franklin, and I'm probably paraphrasing here due to the effects of too much of the voluntarily administered deadly poison alcohol, said it best: "Those who would trade a measure of freedom for a measure of security deserve neither." Trading freedoms, no matter how trivial they seem, leads to tyranny. Full stop. That is a fact of human history that is only refuted by Utopian idealists that ignore the fact that people who really want power are usually also really bad people, and the other observable fact that the happiest people are regulated least. The founding fathers of this great nation knew that well, because they were in the situation in the most desperate of all possible ways, and unfortunately, that spirit gets diluted with every move towards "safety" and "the welfare of the community". Nothing illustrates this more than the first two amendments to the Constitution, which identify political speech and the right to defend oneself from a tyrannical government with military weapons as the *most* important. Read the Federalist Papers for perspectives on these issues.



When people live in fear of some consequence to their actions, deadly or otherwise, and they ignore the creeping death that comes from a society living under the yoke of an authoritarian government, they reflexively submit to even greater oppression. While helmet laws are a minor issue, they are a step - and the reference to Chairman Mao is intentional. Look at the faces of peoples from authoritarian cultures and tell me whether you too want that haunted, hunted, persecuted look on your face.



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Old 06-21-2003, 12:20 AM   #163
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Default Re: Lets try and calculate the cost of no helmets

Finally. This is the real point. An excellent and well thought out post. This argument destroys one of the main arguments for helmet laws and shows conclusively, IMO, that riding without helmets is actually a benefit to society. I'm not joking.
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Old 06-21-2003, 06:39 AM   #164
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Have you been talking to my wife
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Old 06-23-2003, 07:45 AM   #165
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It IS prohibited by the state unless they grant you the priviledge to drive through the issuing of a license.
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Old 06-24-2003, 12:09 PM   #166
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Old 07-08-2003, 12:18 PM   #167
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I only read about a third of the responses, but I mean if you are dumb enough to ride without a helmet, then you should pay the price. Be it death or massive injury. Insurance companies should flip off any rider who tries to make a claim when they weren't wearing a helmet. I don't want to pay for some squid who smashes his new toy or some grizzled ***** on a Leadwing who goes into the side of a mountain. Helmetless = no coverage. *shrug*



Just like Amex, never leave home without your helmet, folks.
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