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Old 06-18-2003, 02:09 PM   #91
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Ignore this guy. He has some bone to pick with Bush and is mad that no one is paying attention to it, so he attacked you instead to get a reaction. MO should create a special area of the site for random attacks on ideas/companies/product types that people don't like. We'll put KPaul and this guy in it to start.
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Old 06-18-2003, 02:09 PM   #92
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Default Re: OK folks this is getting old. Time for a review of KPauls helmet law

Is this possible? Maybe the world has finally stopped spinning and the end is actually at hand. I actually agree with KPaul for once.
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Old 06-18-2003, 02:47 PM   #93
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Default What about cops?

Cops wear 3/4 helmets here in CA.



I have a half helmet, 3/4 helmet, and a Schuberth flip up helmet.



Thank God I don't live in KP's world.
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Old 06-18-2003, 03:57 PM   #94
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Actually I've ridden both the Harley and my wife's yamahammer today. We've all got our internet alter egos. I speak my mind and it rankles you. I'm not a bad sss, it's just this whole helmet issue thing bites and gets me going. As for the grandpa thing. I apologize for being a jerk about it. Everybody has a story. Everybody knows people that have gotten killed doing everything imaginable. Why should everybody else have to pay for their mistakes. Lots of folks get killed dropping a hair dryer into a bath tub but we haven't legislated that yet. Unless of course the one person holding the hair dryer is still alive holding it. I don't agree with your standing for reduction in freedom. That's what it all boils down to.
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Old 06-18-2003, 05:06 PM   #95
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Default Re: PA Helmet Law Changing

Now that you mention it:



I disagree with seatbelt laws too. It however very much is a freedom issue.



I also think that the new "anti-terrorism" legislation will have no effect on terrorism. What we have done is reward the incompetent fools who failed to prevent 9-11 with billions of dollars in increased funding. If you reward incompetence you get even more incompetence. On top of that the govt always misuses its power against its own citizens.



And after a point, giving up freedom does not result in safety. The govt is absolutely the stupidest entity on Earth. Nothing good is going to come of this. Imagine Hilary Clinton with the power to name any group she doesn't like a terrorist group. (shudder).



After all, who will guard the guards?
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Old 06-18-2003, 05:10 PM   #96
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How would your useless, vegetative self cost this society? Because I end up paying for your life support through my taxes and insurance premiums, that's how!



Face it: People who ride without helmets impose their foolish notions of freedom on every other rider. I live in PA, and I don't care a whit for this ridiculous, unnecessary proposal. Put your brain bucket on and be glad you'll live to ride again.



And why don't you anti-helmet folks concentrate on bigger problems? Try looking at the growing trend of insurance companies that don't cover motorcyclists (or rock climbers, ATV riders or water skiiers) because it's a "high-risk" activity. That should make your blood boil, should you take time from your whining about helmet laws and see that your rights really are being trampled.
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Old 06-18-2003, 05:20 PM   #97
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Default Re: PA Helmet Law Changing

The public burden argument is pretty straightforward: You get injured because you weren't wearing a helmet and had a low speed getoff and racked your noggin on the curb. Now you drool on yourself for the rest of your days, and your insurance pays for your care. In order to recoup those costs, your insurance company passes on those substantial costs to the rest of the risk pool (we, the motorcycling public). The action of not wering a helmet does not exist in a vacuum, but has effects well beyond one's personal sphere. Your right to choose looking cool for the ladies is superceded by my right not to shell out half my income in insurance just so I can ride my bike.
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Old 06-18-2003, 06:41 PM   #98
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Default A e from Australia :Re: PA Helmet Law Changing

Over in here in the land of OZ we have no choice (unless you live in the outback). Having written off 2 bikes and numerous crashes on the road & track I can not understand why someone would not wear a helmet. PS I have been riding for over 20years and those who think I must be a bad rider are mistaken - actaully I have a Keith Cody cert and a race licence and varuios other creds but I do ride hard and guess what - my R1 that was written off 2 months ago was from some effing idiot who decided to U-turn over double lines in front of me - if I had no safty gear I wouldnt be here ranting on this site, so to all you heroes (and I thought I was cool way back in 74 beofre the rukes were really enforced) who think its cool to ride with no lid - think about hitting the cement and ending up a vege for the rest of your life - oh yeah fun to ride now eh ....in a wheel chair if you are lucky!
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Old 06-18-2003, 06:46 PM   #99
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Stop it longride. This guy cannot conceive of any society except a big government socialist one. Any further attempts to change his mind will only result in subjecting his co-workers to the smell of smoking brain cells.



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Old 06-18-2003, 06:50 PM   #100
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Yeah! And the same goes for other risky behaviors!



Skiing.

Walking across the street.

Eating anything but tofu and palm leaves.

Taking a shower.

Getting out of bed.

Reading KPaul's posts.

etc.

etc.
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