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Old 04-16-2003, 08:02 AM   #31
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Default Re: Ducati to market V-4s,Sport V-Twins days are numbered

I wonder if Honda decides to market the V-5 GP machine, does that mean sport inline four days are numbered?

No Honda can afford to have a V-5 in never markets.

Why did Suzuki just come out with a 1000 V-Twin sport machine, when they have no desire to race it?

The SV is not a sport bike i.e. it will never race. It is an attempt to leverage the TL1000 engine development costs and the SV650 popularity. I predict the SV650 will always out sell the SV1000

Why would producing one type of machine necessarily mean the demise of another?

The demise of the V-Twins in racing is because as Honda put it , it is inferior to multiple cylinder bikes of the same displacement. V-Twins can only rev so high etc.

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Old 04-16-2003, 08:04 AM   #32
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Default Re: Ducati to market V-4s,Sport V-Twins days are numbered

I am embezzling i.e my private savings account "wife doesn't know about it" for a new CBR 600RR.
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Old 04-16-2003, 08:08 AM   #33
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Default Sound and power delivery

I currently own a 2003 VFR and have to say that, with Staintunes mounted, it's gotta be one of the best sounding bikes I have ever heard. Sort of like a coked-up smallblock Chevy. I can only imagine how the Italian engineers will make that Duc sound, but I know it will be good. As far as power delivery goes, so long as it's 1,000cc's there won't be a problem making it a torque monster. Have any of you V-twin riders also ridden a GSXR1000 or R1? Those suckers will loop you over the back at low RPM's just as easily as any VTR or 999. I think that MotoGP Ducati is the most exciting bike to come out in a long time. I, for one, can't wait for the street version to be released...or Honda's V5 for that matter. It sure is good to be a sport bike rider these days isn't it?
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Old 04-16-2003, 08:09 AM   #34
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Default Honda will sell rights to the RC51 engine to ...

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Old 04-16-2003, 08:11 AM   #35
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Default Re: Basic Economics 101

Remember, it's always easier to ask for forgiveness than permission...
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Old 04-16-2003, 08:16 AM   #36
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Default Re: Sound and power delivery

Did you have to remap the fuel injection on your VFR?



How much for all the mods? I hear what you say about torque in some 4 cyl bikes, but v-twin delivery is still sweeter.



But I am interested in the mods to your VFR. I remember my x-bro in-law's V45 Intercepter. It DID sound like a small block v8. So cool.
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Old 04-16-2003, 08:19 AM   #37
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Default Re: Alan Cathcart Predicts Magic Wonder Bike

He's also the one that said the Bimota V-Due was a great bike with a few "niggling glitches"...
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Old 04-16-2003, 08:21 AM   #38
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Default Re: Ducati to market V-4s,Sport V-Twins days are numbered

One, I'm a crappy rider. When you let off the throttle on vtwin, it's like throwing a parachute out. "Look mom, no brakes!".



Second. For two-up riding, up hills, my VFR must be downshifted too low to get into the powerband to pull us up hills. Then the friggin V-tech kicks in. Not relaxing. My VTR would chug up the hill without any stress. Now, I realize the VTR had an extra 200 CC's. But my old' Ducati 750 Paso, was just as nice for two riding.



Please don't get me wrong, I do like my VFR.



But for ME, I prefer the vtwin attributes. I wish the VFR had the VTR motor.

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Old 04-16-2003, 08:26 AM   #39
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Default Re: v-4 failure?

When did V-4s ever dominate World Superbike racing? Are you referring to Honda's one World Superbike Championship in with the RC45 since the V-twins arrived in that class?

The only time other than that that V-4s were competitive in that class was before Ducati got into it in the mid-to-late 80's.



And I didn't call the VFR a sales failure because it isn't a race replica bike.
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Old 04-16-2003, 08:38 AM   #40
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Default Re: KPaul's predictions.

Ducati will continue to market V-Twins but will replace air cooled with liquid cooled.



I don't see it. They just brought out a new air-cooled V-Twin for the 1000DS and Multistrada.
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