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Old 04-16-2003, 05:39 AM   #11
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Default Re: Ducati to market V-4s,Sport V-Twins days are numbered

I was not aware of Mark Twain's familiarity with V-twins.
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Old 04-16-2003, 05:46 AM   #12
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Default Re: Ducati to market V-4s,Sport V-Twins days are numbered

Its no surprise that Ducati will try to leverage off its GP investment and build a v4 street bike.But" sport vtwin days are numbered".?Id be willing to bet that Ducati will market a vtwin sport bike for a long time.
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Old 04-16-2003, 05:59 AM   #13
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Sounds more like he chose the favorite muse of Samuel Coleridge, whose work so clearly inspired this masterpiece -- that would be Opium!
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Old 04-16-2003, 06:23 AM   #14
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Default Almost as good as a Ducati Press Release!

This is from that most reliable of sources, Motorcycle Daily, which seldom publishes an unfounded rumor of a new bike model......hmmm, when will we see that new V-Max they have been predicting for the last five years?



Lets see, they supposedly got this story from Alan Cathcart (from an interview in Cycle News) who got it from the principals behind the allegedly reborn Bimota, who got it from Ducati. Damn, that sounds almost as reliable as a press release directly from Ducati!



It would not surprise me to see them eventually make a street V4, especially if they were to win the MotoGP championship, but it really is not necessary to have the same engine configuration as the race bike to successfully market the street bikes. For years Honda sold their sport bikes on the success of their 500 2-stroke GP bikes. The fact that, except for possibly a few 3rd world markets, they didn't even sell any 2-stroke street bikes didn't seem to matter. Even now, they market the new inline 4 CBR600RR based largely on its ties to the V5 990 cc RCV. If Honda can sell inline 4s off the race success of 500cc 2-strokes and V5 4-strokes, I am pretty sure Ducati can sell V-twins from the success of racing V4s.



BTW, Ducati have produced V4s in the past -- intended for police use.
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Old 04-16-2003, 06:26 AM   #15
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Default Re: Ducati to market V-4s,Sport V-Twins days are numbered

V4's for track is fine, but I hope Ducati continues with v-twins for street. I currently have a Honda 2003 Intercepter. The V4 is nice, but I miss my Duc 900 SuperSport, Duc 750 pass and my Honda VTR1000. Once you to twin, you can't go back. Vtwin power delivery is so much nicer and for two up riding........ v4 can't compare.



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Old 04-16-2003, 06:28 AM   #16
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Default Re: Ducati to market V-4s,Sport V-Twins days are numbered

If my VTR1000 was more comfortable, I would never have sold it to buy a VFR. VTR was a great bike. Probably (except for comfort) the best bike I've owned.
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Old 04-16-2003, 06:48 AM   #17
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Default Basic Economics 101

Funny how that works. Say that I am interested in your old POS Suzuki. We discuss it and finally agree on a price of $5,000 (in your dreams!). Since we both have agreed to this price, obviously the value to you is not more than $5,000 or you would not have agreed to sell, and to me is at least $5,000 or I would not have agreed to pay that much.



Hell, even amongst the most socialist of economists, this is the textbook definition of "Value." I guess if the goods in question are Harleys (or maybe Ducatis) this basic law of economics is suspended, and people who have no interest in buying or selling them feel better qualified to divine "value" through some other method, than are the buyer and seller who actually enjoy or suffer the economic consequences of their judgement.







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Old 04-16-2003, 06:51 AM   #18
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Default Re: Ducati to market V-4s,Sport V-Twins days are numbered

I would love to see a Ducati V-4, but like others commenting here, fear the price would be prohibitive for most of us. Honda is capitalizing on its Moto GP effort by building look alikes. I can see Ducati proceeding in that direction as a successor to the 999, perhaps.
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Old 04-16-2003, 07:01 AM   #19
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Default Re: Almost as good as a Ducati Press Release!

To add to that, Ducati's heritage (yes they have one) is V-Twins. It is what they are known for and what they are good at. Their expertise and heritage with V-Twins is an inherent advantage over the Japanese (hmmm, that sounds familiar...). Why would they abandon that to build 4-stroke V-4 streetbikes, which in race replica trim (and in racebikes as well) have largely been spectacular failures for every company that has attempted them? What would they gain from switching over?
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Old 04-16-2003, 07:04 AM   #20
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Default Re: Ducati to market V-4s,Sport V-Twins days are numbered

Hey, there's nothing wrong with opinions- that's mainly why I pay to come to this site, to listen to others' opinions.



On that note, what was it that made the twin power delivery so much nicer than the VFR? The only V-4s I've ridden were Yammies, so I don't know what the Interceptor feels like.
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