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MOKE1K · 09-05-2010, 11:29 AM

Immediately following the tragic death of 13yr old Peter Lenz now it happens again. I don't even recall that many guys dying back when the bikes had no electronics what is going on?

Shoya Tomizawa passes away
Sunday, 05 September 2010

The Japanese rider tragically passed away today, Sunday 5th September, after being injured in a crash during the Moto2 race at Misano.

On Sunday 5th September during the Moto2 race at the Misano World Circuit, rider Shoya Tomizawa aged 19 suffered a serious crash and subsequent cranial, thoracic and abdominal trauma.

Given the seriousness of his condition - especially for the thoracic and abdominal trauma - Tomizawa was immediately treated at the Misano World Circuit medical centre and put under artificial respiration.

The rider was taken by ambulance to the Riccione hospital accompanied by two doctors - helicopter was not used in order to allow for the proper respiratory support to be administered. Despite various attempts to resuscitate him Shoya sadly succumbed to his injuries at 14.20.

Everybody involved in MotoGP extends its deepest condolences to Shoya’s family and friends at this tragic loss

MOKE1K · 09-05-2010, 11:33 AM

I think the class has to many entrants and should be scaled down. Its a pitty this has happened twice within one week. RIP Tomizawa and good speed!

Spongeworthy · 09-05-2010, 03:56 PM

I just finished MSF school, got my M license at 46 and convinced my wife and two daughters to let me buy a Ninja 650 on Tuesday. Really excited, I tuned in to the MotoGP and this was the first thing I saw. Needless to say, it has thrown some freezing cold water on the whole proceeding. I realize the risks these MotoGP riders take is extreme, but Jeez, it's tough not to think this was some kind of message! I join you in your deep condolences to Shoya's family and friends.

The_AirHawk · 09-05-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Spongeworthy

I just finished MSF school, got my M license at 46 and convinced my wife and two daughters to let me buy a Ninja 650 on Tuesday. Really excited, I tuned in to the MotoGP and this was the first thing I saw. Needless to say, it has thrown some freezing cold water on the whole proceeding. I realize the risks these MotoGP riders take is extreme, but Jeez, it's tough not to think this was some kind of message! I join you in your deep condolences to Shoya's family and friends.

It's terrible, to be sure. But in all fairness; MotoGP and SBK racers face a higher-risk of injury if they fall off (due to the higher speeds), but are less-likely to be killed by another moving (or immobile) object than a typical street-rider (cars & trucks, trees, signposts, fire-hydrants, culverts, etc.).

It's Dangerous out there: You be careful. Ride your own Ride, and make decisions during your ride as if you were Invisible, because you essentially are.

acecycleins · 09-05-2010, 09:42 PM

All I know about the kid I have read today. Seemed, like with Peter Lenz, the kid was a promising racer. Sad day.

Dr_Sprocket · 09-05-2010, 09:48 PM

Could be anybody at any time. Take all appropriate measures/training/precautions and then... pray. Understand the risks, fully, and be prepared to accept them.

Kenneth_Moore · 09-06-2010, 11:54 AM

I can think of a lot worse ways to die. Like of old age.

mscuddy · 09-06-2010, 12:26 PM

It's a tough sport. Look at how many have passed on doing what they love.

Motor racing is dangerous stuff. Just ask John Cobb, Jimmy Clark, Bill Vukovitch, Achille Varzi, Peter Collins, Ayrton Senna, D!ck Sieman, etc.etc.

I forget what some poet said about dying an early death, something about being "forever young".

To wax poetic there is no bigger thrill than to be on the start line when the gate drops, a few thousand horsepower unleashed, the thrill of it makes everything else pale in comparison. Only those who have done it know.

And I'm sure his last thoughts were "Damn, I hope the bike is OK."

That's what mine always were before the lights went out.

seruzawa · 09-06-2010, 12:28 PM

Fortunately for the Japanese they won't have to deal with an army of fascisti "do-gooders" demanding Congressional Commissions and saying that the parents need to be prosecuted.

DataDan · 09-06-2010, 05:11 PM

It's worth noting how rare deaths have become in GP racing, thanks to improved circuits that ensure adequate runoff, so there's a lot of sliding and tumbling but no sudden deceleration.

But the hazard of other motorcycles can't be eliminated. And that was the common factor in Lenz and Tomizawa's deaths. Both took tremendous hits by other bikes as they lay helpless on the track.

RIP, Peter and Shoya.

09-05-2010, 11:29 AM	#1
MOKE1K Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Kalapana, Big Island Posts: 3,935	Thats 2 w/in a week? Immediately following the tragic death of 13yr old Peter Lenz now it happens again. I don't even recall that many guys dying back when the bikes had no electronics what is going on? Shoya Tomizawa passes away Sunday, 05 September 2010 The Japanese rider tragically passed away today, Sunday 5th September, after being injured in a crash during the Moto2 race at Misano. On Sunday 5th September during the Moto2 race at the Misano World Circuit, rider Shoya Tomizawa aged 19 suffered a serious crash and subsequent cranial, thoracic and abdominal trauma. Given the seriousness of his condition - especially for the thoracic and abdominal trauma - Tomizawa was immediately treated at the Misano World Circuit medical centre and put under artificial respiration. The rider was taken by ambulance to the Riccione hospital accompanied by two doctors - helicopter was not used in order to allow for the proper respiratory support to be administered. Despite various attempts to resuscitate him Shoya sadly succumbed to his injuries at 14.20. Everybody involved in MotoGP extends its deepest condolences to Shoya’s family and friends at this tragic loss __________________ "YOU CAN'T BOLT ON SKILL" "The only thing limiting your bike, is you" We survived Bush you'll survive Obama! "the most fundamental fact about the ideas of the political left is that they do not work. therefore we should not be surprised to find the left concentrated in institutions where ideas do not have to work in order to survive." --thomas sowell Last edited by MOKE1K : 09-05-2010 at 11:32 AM.

09-05-2010, 11:33 AM	#2
MOKE1K Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Kalapana, Big Island Posts: 3,935	I think the class has to many entrants and should be scaled down. Its a pitty this has happened twice within one week. RIP Tomizawa and good speed! __________________ "YOU CAN'T BOLT ON SKILL" "The only thing limiting your bike, is you" We survived Bush you'll survive Obama! "the most fundamental fact about the ideas of the political left is that they do not work. therefore we should not be surprised to find the left concentrated in institutions where ideas do not have to work in order to survive." --thomas sowell Last edited by MOKE1K : 09-05-2010 at 11:43 AM.

09-05-2010, 09:42 PM	#5
acecycleins Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Georgia Posts: 4,125	All I know about the kid I have read today. Seemed, like with Peter Lenz, the kid was a promising racer. Sad day. __________________ "Slack" - a state of being in which everything flows smoothly.....a frame of mind so at ease that the universe naturally cooperates.

09-05-2010, 09:48 PM	#6
Dr_Sprocket Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Delmarva Peninsula Posts: 2,331	Could be anybody at any time. Take all appropriate measures/training/precautions and then... pray. Understand the risks, fully, and be prepared to accept them. __________________ "Aid to the helpless indigent is civilized. Aid to the irresponsible is socially corrosive." ----- Schizuki (c. 2011)

09-06-2010, 11:54 AM	#7
Kenneth_Moore Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: VIsiting the GIft Shop in the Pit of DIspair Posts: 7,118	I can think of a lot worse ways to die. Like of old age. __________________ www.kennethmoore.org

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09-05-2010, 03:56 PM	#3
Spongeworthy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1	I just finished MSF school, got my M license at 46 and convinced my wife and two daughters to let me buy a Ninja 650 on Tuesday. Really excited, I tuned in to the MotoGP and this was the first thing I saw. Needless to say, it has thrown some freezing cold water on the whole proceeding. I realize the risks these MotoGP riders take is extreme, but Jeez, it's tough not to think this was some kind of message! I join you in your deep condolences to Shoya's family and friends.

09-06-2010, 12:26 PM	#8
mscuddy MODERATOR X Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Next to my still checkin the temp. Posts: 5,439	It's a tough sport. Look at how many have passed on doing what they love. Motor racing is dangerous stuff. Just ask John Cobb, Jimmy Clark, Bill Vukovitch, Achille Varzi, Peter Collins, Ayrton Senna, D!ck Sieman, etc.etc. I forget what some poet said about dying an early death, something about being "forever young". To wax poetic there is no bigger thrill than to be on the start line when the gate drops, a few thousand horsepower unleashed, the thrill of it makes everything else pale in comparison. Only those who have done it know. And I'm sure his last thoughts were "Damn, I hope the bike is OK." That's what mine always were before the lights went out. __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.

09-06-2010, 12:28 PM	#9
seruzawa Robby Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 8501 ft. Posts: 16,660	Fortunately for the Japanese they won't have to deal with an army of fascisti "do-gooders" demanding Congressional Commissions and saying that the parents need to be prosecuted. __________________ "If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait until it's free."

09-06-2010, 05:11 PM	#10
DataDan Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 115	It's worth noting how rare deaths have become in GP racing, thanks to improved circuits that ensure adequate runoff, so there's a lot of sliding and tumbling but no sudden deceleration. But the hazard of other motorcycles can't be eliminated. And that was the common factor in Lenz and Tomizawa's deaths. Both took tremendous hits by other bikes as they lay helpless on the track. RIP, Peter and Shoya.