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Old 01-23-2003, 01:14 PM   #31
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Default The consequences of pollution are inherent.

True, but they are often suffered by whoever lives down stream/down wind from the polluter.
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Old 01-23-2003, 01:17 PM   #32
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Good idea. However it will never fly in America. Just a few days ago somebody tried to sue a locality because she tripped over an orange warning cone. Fortunately the judge stated that no law requires that there be warnings posted to warn people that there are warning cones ahead and threw the suit out.



But I can just see some other lawyer in a black robe, er, I mean some other judge letting it go through.
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Old 01-23-2003, 01:24 PM   #33
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Default Re: Motorcycle Crash Study Update

True, these so-called (by some on this board) "socialist" countries take safety studies seriously, have mandatory helmet laws, vehicle standards etc, tough licencing standards (tiered for bikes) but guess what? They have not banned motorcycles, mandated crashbars, imposed repressive speed limits. The fact that many American motorcyclists pay $1000s to specialist travel groups who organize cycle tours there suggests that these regulations have not totally fu(ked up the motorcycling experience.
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Old 01-23-2003, 01:36 PM   #34
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That will work well with the rear-wheel steering. We can adapt existing designs -- just turn the seat around and rig new controls!



I can just see the Highwayman riding such a scoot



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Old 01-23-2003, 01:40 PM   #35
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That will work well with the rear-wheel steering. We can adapt existing designs -- just turn the seat around and rig new controls!



I can just see the Highwayman riding such a scoot



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Old 01-23-2003, 02:51 PM   #36
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In which case those effected would be injured parties and they would have leagal recourse even under our current f@#ked up legal system. Despite the plethora of rules and regulations this type of matter is most often settled in court anyway. More regulation would change nothing. VWW
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Old 01-23-2003, 03:12 PM   #37
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Ooooh! I like that analogy.
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Old 01-23-2003, 03:33 PM   #38
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Default Not to be dis-respectful - but you're nuts!

Hierarchy of mass? One group of drivers being required to drive more responsibly than another! Oh boy. What were you thinking? It is NOT logical. I bet a truck driver would say there should be a hierarchy of maneuverability, and where would we as motorcyclists end up on that one! Dont go making things more complicated than they already are.



BTW, while there is no specific law in THIS country, the old, "I didnt see him" is not a valid legal excuse. If a driver states that, they more than likely violated some traffic law such as, "failure to yield", and will be cited accordingly.



I do agree with previous assertions that violations of traffic law leading to serious injury/death, should should incur higher penalties than just a $100 fine.
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Old 01-23-2003, 03:34 PM   #39
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We have constitutional excise taxes which are suposed to be used to build and maintain our roads, also if there is a demonstrated need for this type of infrastucture we have a little thing called private enterprise which has met these needs in the past by building turnpikes. VWW
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Old 01-23-2003, 03:36 PM   #40
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Default Re: The consequences of pollution are inherent.

If everyone upriver from me is dumping chemicals into the river, how do I establish, beyond reasonable doubt, that a specific polluter has damaged me?



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