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Old 04-27-2009, 07:04 AM   #1
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Poor HD dealers. Boo hoo.

I don't remember any sympathy from these dealers in the 90s when they were charging 5K over MSRP. I don't remember any sympathy from HD itself when they refused to increase production and thereby kept prices artificially high. I don't remember any sympathy from the HD employees when they were laughing all the way to the bank with all that overtime.

So excuse me if I can't find any sympathy for any of the above at this particular time.
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Old 04-27-2009, 07:39 AM   #2
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I remember being in Green Bay in the 90s on a trip. I had just bought my 96 Low Rider for MSRP in San Diego. This guy was charging 5-8k over sticker.

I questioned him about it and he just said, "this is what we charge."

I said I was going to buy a tshirt but decided to just walk out.
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Old 04-27-2009, 07:45 AM   #3
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I remember being in Green Bay in the 90s on a trip. I had just bought my 96 Low Rider for MSRP in San Diego. This guy was charging 5-8k over sticker.

I questioned him about it and he just said, "this is what we charge."

I said I was going to buy a tshirt but decided to just walk out.

My wife bought me some T-shirts over the weekend.
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Old 04-27-2009, 08:07 AM   #4
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Some dealers deserve to go under. Some were straight up through the boom days era. Lake Shore Harley is one of those gooddealers. I got my bike at MSRP at the height of the boom from them. No waiting lists, no overcharge, no BS. They earned and get my bucks. I have a dealer in town that I wouldn't piss on if they caught fire. Wildfire H-D is their name. I buy nothing from them. I have stories from that place you wouldn't believe. Chicago Harley is a pretty good place too. They kept their head during the good days.
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Old 04-27-2009, 08:17 AM   #5
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Some dealers deserve to go under. Some were straight up through the boom days era. Lake Shore Harley is one of those gooddealers. I got my bike at MSRP at the height of the boom from them. No waiting lists, no overcharge, no BS. They earned and get my bucks. I have a dealer in town that I wouldn't piss on if they caught fire. Wildfire H-D is their name. I buy nothing from them. I have stories from that place you wouldn't believe. Chicago Harley is a pretty good place too. They kept their head during the good days.
Salt Lake HD charged over MSRP. The tradition continues with SLHD refusing to sell Buells. Eff them.
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Calif. HD in Harbor City charged me sticker for my City X. Real popular shop. Service department was full of bozos however.
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:12 AM   #7
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Downtown HD in Seattle and Destination HD in Tacoma both jumped on the bandwagon with $5k markups, I rode Japanese bikes and Triumphs so I didn't care anyway. Now Downtown is selling at or below msrp and their used prices are coming back down to earth while Destination HD is still pushing for every nickle. It don't bother me because I buy everything online from Chicago anyway except for oil and filters.

I feel the same way, they had no qualms about trying to screw me, now the shoes on the other foot.
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I don't remember any sympathy from these dealers in the 90s when they were charging 5K over MSRP. I don't remember any sympathy from HD itself when they refused to increase production and thereby kept prices artificially high. I don't remember any sympathy from the HD employees when they were laughing all the way to the bank with all that overtime.
The bank was laughing too. HD's in-house bank had a very "aggresive" lending policy for years called the "Delta" program. If you had been at the same job for 5 years, or if you'd owned your home for 5 years, they would lend you the money for a bike. Credit score, bankruptcy, credit to income, nothing else mattered if you had "5 or 5." Needless to say a lot of people bought expensive motorcycles who couldn't have if HD followed typical lending rules. And the dealers "helped" by taking in "trades" that were wrecked bikes purchased at the salvage yard for $50 and "valuing" them at a very convenient 10% of the cost of the new bike...aka: a down payment.
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The bank was laughing too. HD's in-house bank had a very "aggresive" lending policy for years called the "Delta" program. If you had been at the same job for 5 years, or if you'd owned your home for 5 years, they would lend you the money for a bike. Credit score, bankruptcy, credit to income, nothing else mattered if you had "5 or 5." Needless to say a lot of people bought expensive motorcycles who couldn't have if HD followed typical lending rules. And the dealers "helped" by taking in "trades" that were wrecked bikes purchased at the salvage yard for $50 and "valuing" them at a very convenient 10% of the cost of the new bike...aka: a down payment.

Sounds like they took a Klazy Ken Seminar or two.
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Sounds like they took a Klazy Ken Seminar or two.
And Klazy Ken learn vital skills using Photoshop to provide useful documentation for deadbeats who wanted bikes.
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